That's one feature of RunGood I've been enjoying, being able to define a "break even" session as between +/- a certain number of BBs, mine is set at 10bb, any other thoughts?

Seems totally arbitrary as well as totally dependent on session length

If you lost 10bb in 10 minutes, hardly a "breakeven" session. If you lost 10bb over a 20 hour session, fairly "breakeven".

I've booked exactly 2 breakeven sessions in 398 1/3 NL sessions.

Gbutitistotallyarbitrary,sowhocaresG

Hypothetical situation:
You are a rec player and you only get to play 1 hour a day, 6 days a week.
These are your results for 4 week. Which do you feel the best about?

A) 3 10bb wins and 3 10bb losses
B) 6 break even wins (exactly break even)
C) 1 50bb win and 5 10bb losses
D) 5 10bb wins and 1 50bb loss

When looks back at them from a stats perspective, which one do you think shows your 'best' or 'average' or 'normal' performance?

Once you've decided what your choice is:

I find 123bb to be reasonable.

Sure, but what if you dont do that? What if you play more or less the same 4-6 hour sessions every time you play no matter how you are doing, and your winning percentage is super high? You're not trying to make it super high It just is. Its not so meaningless anymore.

Of course, we are still trying to win the most money, not the most sessions, but if 2 people both win the same amount of money after 100 sessions and neither is trying to inflate the win %, then Id rather be the guy with smaller but more consistent wins than the guy with big wins and big losses.

Hey, just want some advice on 1-2 bankroll advice. A new casino is opening near me and I plan to grind 1-2 nlhe once a week (prolly Friday or Saturday nights bc action for cash games seems best those nights). I have a goal of trying to grind to a 2-5 bankroll of 10k or go busto.

Is 2k enough if I play one night a week and add say 50-60 bucks to my
Roll on a weekly basis? I assume yes bc 1-2 is soft and I'm not playing too often. I plan on buying for max of 300 and bringing 100-200 dollars every session if I need to reload my stack.

I plan to play super nitty and only nut peddle. I'm a solid tourny player but need work on my deep stack play so I plan to just play super nitty. Thanks for any bankroll advice!

It's a pointless metric


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look at you go

If someone played the same session or went in most sessions with a time goal and hit it and stopped regardless of being up or down, it becomes less worthless, but how many people actually do that? GG sounds like he does that but he even pointed out he tapped out early in the session with the maniac. Most don't do that though. A common trait among players is to keep playing if they're stuck until they are unstuck or just have to leave for whatever reason. Another common trait among players is to leave to lock up a win.

So, yes I do agree with you, I just don't think it's done in practice often. If those players do exist, their WR% is more useful

I dont know. In the grand scheme of poker players, there arent very many who even use an app or track anything. Of the people who do use an app and track their stats, I would think most of them are serious players who either:
A) are pros
B) are serious part timers.

I guess if youre single this may not apply, but the pros I know are married and they play a set schedule that fits their lives and their family's lives. For example: I like to start around noon and play until 5-6 and be home for dinner. It doesnt matter if I win or lose, I come home for dinner almost all the time. Im not going to quit at 3PM because I have a win locked up. If I leave that early its because my back is bothering me or my wifes car broke down or whatever other life things get in the way.

For the serious part timers, they have jobs so they play when they can. If they get to the poker room on Saturday to play, are they really going to quit after 2 hours just to book a win when they have another 4 free hours?

I can see people who planned to play until 5PM quitting at 4:30 to book a win but beyond that? If they do that then they probably do all kinds of dumb things like not entering a session in their app when they lose so all of their stats are probably meaningless

What do you think the ratio of single pros to married pros is?


How many times do part timers that can only play on weekends decide to stay to try to get unstuck because they can't play until next weekend?

I get your point, but if they are pros they should know better than to stay longer to get unstuck or leave early to book a win. Those guys are good pros so again, theres no telling what else they do to manipulate their stats.

I guess comparing win % stats on a forum like this may be useless, but comparing it between my friends who I know are serious pros is not.

I did become a lot more tilted at first about losing sessions when I started doing the weekend warrior thing. Part of it was knowing it could be weeks or months before I got "unstuck" and the other part was knowing in the meantime I'd be spending dozens of hours at work to make what I lost in five.

Doesn't bother me so much anymore but there is that side.

Agreed on both points

Hey guys, probably a dumb question but I've been thinking about this for awhile I have about 2500 bucks I can risk for playing 1/3 poker because I am a student who will be graduating this may with NO student loans. I know that 2500 is way too small to be an "official" bankroll for 1/3 however I just love poker and enjoy playing about every other weekend while In college. Do you guys recommend I try and save up money to get about 6k-7k in my role before I start playing? It's hard for me to save like I said as a student and I just enjoy playing even though I'm under rolled. Also, I buy in for 210 or 70BB each session and only bring one buy in with me. Please everyone give me feedback on this situation! Really been thinking about it for awhile

The short answer is that you can start playing now.
But you will be more likely to go busto then you were if you had more money.
With 10 buy ins you have a reasonable cushion, and you will often be fine.
If you're going to be slowly adding to your roll as life permits, just start playing now.

If it's money you can risk without destroying your life and prospects and you enjoy playing poker, then go ahead and enjoy playing poker

Good luck - I hope you run well.

So the first session of 2017 I won 500BB in 4 hours. I quit for 2017! LOL


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Jesus, anyone starting 2017 off in the hole?

3 sessions, 21 hours, -$1230 at 1/2.

-600

-230

-400

6 buyins at 1/2, yuck.

Don't fret was break even for the first 2.5 months of 2016, then I lost 9 buy-ins in three sessions. Ended up winning $27k for the year.

if you only examine results every 100-200 hours you will be happier and ask less questions in this thread

Started 2016 with my second biggest loss of the year.

2017 started much better.

Just started keeping records about a week ago.

Variance is going my way it seems for now.

9 sessions, 38.5 hours so far, -$78.50 for a solid "meh".

I'm really surprised I've been able to put in that much volume so quickly. A couple of vacation days will do it I suppose.

22.5 hours +1674 to start the year
All 3/5 and 5/5