Or maybe be more aware of a guy who is super short and most likely pretty tight/ABC. Then just fold T9 on a A93 when a guy leads for 2/3 pot with only 110 behind...lol

No just move up. That's the answer....

LOL....a good player can adjust to the other players and beat them at their game, no matter what their game is. You just cant admit that you cant make the correct adjustments so you just call the other players bad when in fact you are the one playing bad.

You must be the guy at the table that tries to get rec players to fold overpairs. But seriously...

Winning players don't profit by adjusting to how bad players should play. They make money by exploiting the way bad players do play.

So you called with middle pair because "OMG, a pair."

He obviously doesn't mind getting it in, because...he did. Maybe he knows that bigger game awesome player such as yourself is more likely to shove with a wide range than to call.

He's not the one holding T9 and turned flush draw, was he? Maybe, just maybe, he wants to get it in and doesn't want you to fold?

Are you referring to yourself in 3rd person?

So you win if people fold to your bets? Imagine that.

Maybe because they actually understand that betting range is often far weaker than calling range, something you obviously don't understand.

"Murph! Hey, come back any time. Your money's always good here."

Yesterday I limped AJ UTG in a $2/$5 game. There was another limp and then a maniac on the button raised to $30. I called and so did the other limper. Do I normally limp AJ UTG? Absolutely not. Do I normally call a raise OOP with AJ? Absolutely not. Why did I do it this time? Because the button was a maniac who will raise and try to take control of the hand with holdings that he would fold if I raised.

Flop came J53. I check/called $55.
Turn T. I checked and he shoved all in for $255. I called. He had 64.

Would I play AJ this way against just about anyone else? Nope. I'm sure he probably thinks I suck just like "aling" thinks everyone else sucks. My guess is that "aling's" villain probably had a read that he would pull over aggressive crap just like this and that's why he check/called the turn all in.

"aling" has been posting for days about how he used to beat $10/$25NL and now the games have dried up so bad that poker players need to find a new career. He clearly isn't as good as he thinks he is and I agree that he should find a new career.

you guys are tough, give the guy a break

Tough love

What happens in that spot when you don't flop topsies?

I probably give up, which is why you shouldn't limp/call a raise in EP with AJ, but against a maniac that you can bust when you hit, I would say its worth it.

Check/call 3 streets regardless of board texture obv because V is a MANIAC and we have AJ high (aka da nutzzzzzz)

inb4 Hero checkfold 80% of board textures and loozing infinite moneyz longrun to V

EDIT: **** I SAID INB4 BUT YOU POSTED LIKE 30SECONDS AHEAD OF ME SO I WASN'T ACTUALLY INB4 fml

I beat you with my response just like I beat the maniac into the pot with my call

If you had raised and he called do you still give up? It is a pretty similar spot.

x/c down on most runouts seems good against a true maniac.

First of all, I doubt he would call my UTG raise with 64. Secondly, my raising from UTG is not at all similar to me limp/calling his raise.

Limp calling versus this villain in order to fold most flops is burning $$$.

Having a plan of "let's flop top top and print maniez" isn't really a plan at all.

We have big range advantage in both cases. Giving up when we whiff against a range of mostly trash doesn't make sense. The only differences are who is capped, which doesn't make a huge difference when we have such a big range advantage, and who has initiative. Initiative is strictly a metagame concept and if anything I would guess it would affect the maniac by making him feel compelled to c-bet way, way more often than he should be.

IMO, we should actually be less inclined to give up post-flop when we limp/call compared to when we raise and get called.

Yeah dude but how do we call w/out toptop?????

Giving up when we whiff is fine.

No point making it harder to play against us, let maniac fish enjoy the win.

+1

We don't need to flop top-top to continue. Pretty much any equity at all will do when villain is barreling 3 streets with air.

update:

now at 302 hours for the year. $14,136 ($46.82/hr)
(1/2): 160 hrs at $26.67/hr = $4,274
(1/3): 21 hrs at $48.34/hr = $996
(2/5): 121 hrs at $73.21/hr = $8,866

Can anyone tell me how to post a pic correctly? When I post from photobucket, there is a bar at the top of the image that takes you to my photobucket account. Thats not supposed to happen right?

<------- BBV is that way

This is the win rate thread isn't it? I was going to post a pic of my graph

That was a lame attempt at humor. You don't want an old guy like me trying to actually answer your question.

Use Tapatalk.

To do what? Never heard of it and a quick search looks like its some sort of forum for people who share similar interests?