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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

5 6.41%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

6 7.69%

5-7.5

8 10.26%

7.5-10

15 19.23%

10+

26 33.33%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

18 23.08%

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03-06-2016 , 01:57 PM

#13876

bwslim69

I'm a Diva, Bruh

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 24,927

Spike I forget do you and the wife have kids? All I would say is if you have trouble with the time issues pre-kids it will be difficult x10 if you have kids.

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03-06-2016 , 03:15 PM

#13877

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

One five year old boy. I'm
Not expecting to put in 20 hrs/wk right now. Just want to be able
To go when I can and start supplying some cash for things we want but can't pull from the life roll. We make quite a bit of money but also have a significant amount of school/life debt to deal with as well as really want to set ourselves up on solid ground financially going forward.

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03-06-2016 , 04:34 PM

#13878

N3uromant3

banned

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 15

Hello guys,

here my stats:
Count: 69
Profit: 16.683
Hourly: 37,96
StdDev: 397.99
Total time: 440h

I play 2 times per week at 2-4. Since 3 months I am playing 50% of times 5-10 and 50% of times 2-4.

I play in a local casino and the profits include rake:
NL4 2euro if the pot is min 50 (+tip)
NL10 5 euro if the pot is min 100 (+tip)

Do you think I can move to play 100% NL10?

Additional info:
I do not know exactly the win rate at the 2 different stakes :/
The hourly rate has improved over time

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03-06-2016 , 05:56 PM

#13879

kekeeke

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,306

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Originally Posted by N3uromant3

wow nice rake structure
euro too, i thought europe was a rake fest?

only you know if you can move to 5-10, if you think/know you are profitable there, play there.

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03-06-2016 , 06:12 PM

#13880

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,514

You don't tell us your bankroll, so there is no way we can answer if you can move up. Your Standard Deviation is quite high (even if it is per session, sky-high if it is per hour), so you need a very healthy bankroll to be able to move up to 5-10 without a significant risk of ruin.

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03-06-2016 , 06:37 PM

#13881

N3uromant3

banned

Join Date: May 2014 Posts: 15

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Originally Posted by Garick

I checked, its per hour :/

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03-06-2016 , 07:09 PM

#13882

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,514

OK, I just realized that's probably euros/hour, not BB/hour so it's not such a crazy SD after all, but without knowing the breakout of 2/4 vs. 5/10 or your bankroll, it's still really hard for us to tell you anything much.

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03-06-2016 , 07:34 PM

#13883

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Yes you are ready. Go and let us know how it goes.

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03-06-2016 , 08:22 PM

#13884

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

Decided to take a 40bb shot at 5/T. Can't be exploited by 3 bets. Just open shoving JTss+.

Wife offered to rail for support.

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03-06-2016 , 08:31 PM

#13885

t_roy

veteran

Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 2,123

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Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Decided to take a 40bb shot at 5/T. Can't be exploited by 3 bets. Just open shoving JTss+.

Wife offered to rail for support.

I'm sure this will go well...

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03-06-2016 , 08:55 PM

#13886

ZippyThePinhead

adept

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 948

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Decided to take a 40bb shot at 5/T. Can't be exploited by 3 bets. Just open shoving JTss+.

Wife offered to rail for support.

Solid plan. Good luck

Sent from my SM-T320 using 2+2 Forums

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03-06-2016 , 09:10 PM

#13887

MikeStarr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 7,962

Quote:

Originally Posted by Garick

I know virtually nothing about the standard deviation stat. What do I need to look for? Is the number itself useful? Or the number compared to the win rate or what?

$2/$5 NL
Im at $59.11 / hr
$231.69 / hr standard deviation.
$478.01 / session standard dev.

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03-06-2016 , 09:45 PM

#13888

zoltan

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 21,490

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Decided to take a 40bb shot at 5/T. Can't be exploited by 3 bets. Just open shoving JTss+.

Wife offered to rail for support.

Been >1 hour, where's the TR????

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03-06-2016 , 10:09 PM

#13889

johnny_on_the_spot

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 11,608

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikeraw22

Decided to take a 40bb shot at 5/T. Can't be exploited by 3 bets. Just open shoving JTss+.

Wife offered to rail for support.

that escalated quickly.

run hot bud!

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03-06-2016 , 11:07 PM

#13890

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

My god sarcasm people.

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03-06-2016 , 11:25 PM

#13891

Garick

Oberbiergenießer

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 26,514

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Originally Posted by MikeStarr

Number just tells you how swingy you are. It isn't good or bad, except that bigger ones make wild runs (in either direction) more likely.

As for your numbers, they tell me two things. 1) You either have very calm swings or a small sample size and 2) You play very short sessions.

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03-06-2016 , 11:50 PM

#13892

MikeStarr

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 7,962

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Originally Posted by Garick

I do have very calm swings. My sessions avg 4-5 hours.

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03-07-2016 , 12:19 AM

#13893

VolumeKing

adept

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 729

Quick question! a friend of mine was saying that if you have large swings it's because you are winning big pots but also losing big pots. Over a long sample size a higher winrate is going to have less swings overall but maybe more in the short term while a low winrate will have less swings daily but it will take longer to dig out of a losing streak because your winrate is so small. Does that sound right?

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03-07-2016 , 12:24 AM

#13894

Siculamente

banned

Join Date: Jul 2012 Posts: 2,144

I probably misunderstood. If both people in a relationship have great paying jobs then why would one want to play live low stakes for the money?

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03-07-2016 , 12:33 AM

#13895

kekeeke

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,306

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siculamente

I probably misunderstood. If both people in a relationship have great paying jobs then why would one want to play live low stakes for the money?

Few people have hobbies that earn them money, a hobby is usually a money sink.

Plus who doesn't like some side money that is legal and.. ahem.. tax free

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03-07-2016 , 01:25 AM

#13896

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

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Originally Posted by VolumeKing

Quick question! a friend of mine was saying that if you have large swings it's because you are winning big pots but also losing big pots.

Most people only track session swings, so it's possible to lose a lot of small pots and ended sessions down a lot or up a lot.

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Originally Posted by VolumeKing

Over a long sample size a higher winrate is going to have less swings overall but maybe more in the short term while a low winrate will have less swings daily but it will take longer to dig out of a losing streak because your winrate is so small. Does that sound right?

Not really, sounds convoluted.

One thing that most poker players can never learn is to appreciate losing hands.

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03-07-2016 , 01:26 AM

#13897

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siculamente

I probably misunderstood. If both people in a relationship have great paying jobs then why would one want to play live low stakes for the money?

Why not?

Money is still money.

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03-07-2016 , 03:31 AM

#13898

suited fours

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,143

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Parker

Why not?

Money is still money.

That's why they call it money.

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03-07-2016 , 07:12 AM

#13899

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

[ ] wealthy

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03-07-2016 , 09:57 AM

#13900

johnny_on_the_spot

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 11,608

Quote:

Originally Posted by Siculamente

I probably misunderstood. If both people in a relationship have great paying jobs then why would one want to play live low stakes for the money?

Define "great"

And in reality if my wife made what I make, which I would classify as very good, I would be more inclined to play for a living since my wife could cover all costs, thus the RoR for the family is much smaller

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