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[OFFICIAL] Winrates, bankrolls, and finances

View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr

Less than 0 (losing)

5 6.41%

0-2.5

0 0%

2.5-5

6 7.69%

5-7.5

8 10.26%

7.5-10

15 19.23%

10+

26 33.33%

Not enough sample size/I don't know

18 23.08%

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02-27-2016 , 08:57 PM

#13726

`Fearu

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball47

Is there a consensus on what's considered CRUSHING at 1/2?

If you can make 5bb per hour on average at w.e game you play I would say you are in the top 5% of players of that game.

But the term crushing is subjective people like to throw out the 10bb per hour number but if you can do that then chances are you would move up stakes.

Then there are a few of us that say numbers like 20bb+ are possible, but I'm not going to spend 2000 hours to find out if I can personally do it although I believe I could. I may spend like a week doing it for giggles but people will proably argue sample size.

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02-27-2016 , 09:11 PM

#13727

suited fours

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 4,143

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hardball47

Is there a consensus on what's considered CRUSHING at 1/2?

Consensus has narrowed it down to $25-$60 / hr.

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02-27-2016 , 10:04 PM

#13728

`Fearu

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 114

Quote:

Originally Posted by suited fours

Consensus has narrowed it down to $25-$60 / hr.

I'm hoping to God that everyone would agree that $20 an hour is crushing. I'm just saying that I consider $10 a hour crushing.

There was a debate on what the highest rates achieveable are, but that debate shouldn't change that 10$ an hour is really good at 1/2

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02-28-2016 , 01:42 AM

#13729

Parallelflux

adept

Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 826

If you are a crusher but you havent moved up after x amount of time, how much of a crusher are you really?

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02-28-2016 , 03:46 AM

#13730

feel wrath

The Situation

Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 29,850

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parallelflux

If you are a crusher but you havent moved up after x amount of time, how much of a crusher are you really?

One without an ego?

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02-28-2016 , 04:58 AM

#13731

de4df1sh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

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Originally Posted by t_roy

ITT we try to teach blind men what colors are like.

Lol A+

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02-28-2016 , 05:52 AM

#13732

rockchucker8

old hand

Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 1,660

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parallelflux

If you are a crusher but you havent moved up after x amount of time, how much of a crusher are you really?

A crusher in a locale without higher stakes?

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02-28-2016 , 07:59 AM

#13733

de4df1sh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parallelflux

If you are a crusher but you havent moved up after x amount of time, how much of a crusher are you really?

I would not call myself a crusher, but I have a respectable winrate over a reasonable sample size and have been playing for a living for a little over 2 years.

one of the reasons I have not moved up permanently is because I sacrificed alot of my bankroll to buy a house.

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02-28-2016 , 09:24 AM

#13734

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

Or a crusher who keeps pulling money from his roll for whatever reason. Can you be a crusher with BRM issues?

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02-28-2016 , 09:32 AM

#13735

VolumeKing

adept

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 729

I have a few 500hr breakeven stretches over 3-4k hours and its usually because I play bad and get cute with standard lines while making bad calls.

In regards to volume and win rate if you worked less than 32 hours a week on average in a year you would be considered a part time employee. If you follow that same logic, grinders with less than 1600 hours should consider themselves part time, while understanding the limitations of their sample size.

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02-28-2016 , 10:31 AM

#13736

johnny_on_the_spot

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 11,608

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolumeKing

It's adorable that you equate full time as the US's standard for full time, because no other countries have full time employees who work less than an average of 32 hours/week

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02-28-2016 , 01:22 PM

#13737

VolumeKing

adept

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 729

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolumeKing

FOR USA ONLY

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02-28-2016 , 02:45 PM

#13738

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolumeKing

So if you grind 8 more hours, you would be considered a much better player and get higher WR to cover for medical, 401k, PTO, and so forth?

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02-28-2016 , 02:52 PM

#13739

de4df1sh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

Well I mean if you make $20 an hour the extra 400 hours amounts to 8k which maxes out an IRA contribution and probably covers most peoples health ins and then some

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02-28-2016 , 02:56 PM

#13740

Richard Parker

banned

Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 13,949

Makes sense...

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02-28-2016 , 04:50 PM

#13741

VolumeKing

adept

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 729

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard Parker

So if you grind 8 more hours, you would be considered a much better player and get higher WR to cover for medical, 401k, PTO, and so forth?

Hello, what are you saying, I do not understand. Why would grinding eight more hours change your winrate?

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02-28-2016 , 04:59 PM

#13742

de4df1sh

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 6,893

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolumeKing

Hello, what are you saying, I do not understand. Why would grinding eight more hours change your winrate?

It would not change your $/hr but would change what you net out per year/month/week

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02-28-2016 , 05:03 PM

#13743

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

Quote:

Originally Posted by de4df1sh

It would not change your $/hr but would change what you net out per year/month/week

I always go on heaters in my last 8 hrs of the week.

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02-28-2016 , 05:04 PM

#13744

VolumeKing

adept

Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 729

Quote:

Originally Posted by de4df1sh

It would not change your $/hr but would change what you net out per year/month/week

What does WR mean?

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02-28-2016 , 05:31 PM

#13745

FiGMan

enthusiast

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 88

Quote:

Originally Posted by VolumeKing

What does WR mean?

Wide receiver obv

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02-28-2016 , 06:41 PM

#13746

spikeraw22

The Situation

Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 8,741

Quote:

Originally Posted by FiGMan

Wide receiver obv

women ravaged.

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02-28-2016 , 07:02 PM

#13747

Mr Sandbag

journeyman

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 251

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikeraw22

I always go on heaters in my last 8 hrs of the week.

My last 8 hours are usually a downswing. Maybe I'll cut my hours and make more money.

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02-28-2016 , 08:19 PM

#13748

`Fearu

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 114

So I went to play today with the intention to play 8 hours of 1/2 to see what i could do. I found out that my hand reading ability is terrible, but i have now confirmed that the maximum achievable winrate at 1/2 is -175$ per hour.

#TryhardFailure

ill upload my stats for this year in a little

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02-28-2016 , 08:28 PM

#13749

`Fearu

centurion

Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 114

230 hours so far this year
45 an hour mostly 2/5

side note don't play when your tooth hurts and you need a root canal, derp. #WorstDownswingEver

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02-28-2016 , 08:36 PM

#13750

Lapidator

LLSNL Frequent Flyer

Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 13,762

Quote:

Originally Posted by de4df1sh

Well I mean if you make $20 an hour the extra 400 hours amounts to 8k which maxes out an IRA contribution and probably covers most peoples health ins and then some

$20/hr * 400 hrs = $8000

On that $8000...

Gonna pay taxes? 20% is $1600

Gonna eat? $10/8hrs is $500

Travel costs? $5/8hrs is $250

$8000 - 1600 - 500 - 250 = $5650

400 hrs is 50, 8hr sessions. That's two months rent @ $600/mo. Now we're down to $4450.

Don't think there's going to be any room for health insurance or a RothIRA contribution.

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