Boiling oat runner?

Ignore him, he has Tourette's

**** you you ****ing ****stick tourette's is a myth.

Maybe they've expanded into wheat. Not much math in that job tho.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_principle

Well, if by "pro" (with quotes and all), you mean any old lol-live player who thinks he's the bees knees because he plays higher stakes, then yeah.

But the post you were quoting talks about legit pros: players who crushed 1/2NL and are winners at 5/T. I'm quite certain if those guys played 1/2NL, they would win just the same. It's all just poker. The different blind amount wouldn't short circuit their brain and cause them to not know how to play poker anymore.

I'm a career crusher at 2nl and 5nl, even though these were never my regular stakes, and I have the database to prove it. Obviously not a brag by any stretch of the imagination ...

Thank you for your response, I have a lot of respect for you and a lot of the posters and seasoned vets on LLSNL, as well as a ton of respect for the posters just looking to get better. I am a long time lurker and not a big poster.

To answer some of your questions; I am 22 y/o graduating in Dec. I LOVE live poker and it is one of the many reasons I transitioned from online to live. I would play even if I was breakeven for the fun. I am lucky enough to be a marginal winner thus far in my tiny sample.

I have a life roll and poker roll. I work ~20 hours a week and it pays for life, while my poker playing is solely to build my BR. My long term hope is to be able to take a few months off after graduation to grind full time while I look for my FT career job. What happens after we will see, I just know I want to keep poker in my life no matter what.

I am definitely not trying to get ahead of myself, I am just a tad bit obsessed with planning ahead and I like to set goals. In addition to playing live 15-20 hours a week I try to put the same amount of poker study hours in as I do playing. I do this studying in various ways. 2+2 has been a massive help and I appreciate the wisdom and knowledge of you guys. Going busto would not affect my life negatively very much, but of course I want to avoid this.

I am no crusher and have a ton of leaks but I do feel that I have the personality and work ethic necessary to get better.
Thank you.

If you can afford it, play 2/5 as soon as you can. Afford means different things for amateurs, semi pros and pros but imo, 2/5 is far more enjoyable and you need to play at that level to adjust to the different play

lol at this

Different blind amount triggers something called ego, and that makes people do funny things.

How did Poe predict Richard Parkers demise?

I wouldn't say this is the case for everyone but you can definitely play a style with these characteristics. It's playing to minimize your risk of ruin.

People on here only care about maximizing hourly and if you participate in discussions but don't have that max hourly perspective, yes, you'll be crucified.

which part? or was it all varying degrees of lol?

Well, allow me then, to ask you a question:

I mid-February 2015, I started using a session logger. February was a losing month. However, from March thru November 2015, I logged 1118.3 hours with a win rate of $14.26 pr hour. That includes September's results where I lost $38.00.

In December & January I have logged 205.4 hours & am averaging $22.24 per hour. In January, I'm averaging $24.72 thru 102.13 hours. Can I say that I have finally broken thru the $20 per hour ceiling & should expect 2016 to be $20+?... I don't think so. Way too small a sample size.

I don't feel as though I've played that much better and I am not running hot, i.e., a much higher win percentage.

For instance, from February 2015 - November 2015, I won 62.2% of my sessions, but for Dec/Jan I averaged 63.79%.

The bulk of my work on my game has been on the weak links.

I couldn't imagine banking 100 hours a month with a full-time job long-term. No matter how young I was. That would be 65 hours per week between the job & poker in a 4 week month. Then the driving too & from work/casino. If you're single - all the house chores etc. If you're married, or have a girlfriend - she ain't gonna' put up with it forever. When are you going to exercise, study your game & escape from the job/poker for awhile during the month??

I spend ~110 hrs on a 4 week month, actually sitting at the poker table & I'm retired. I don't have a 1hr+ drive to the casino.

It sounds like you dont have a lot of confidence but I would say that you've gotten much better since last year.

Wow, you lost a debate. Get over it. Or better yet. Learn from it.

F.w.i.w
RP has destroyed many egos over the years. He was probably a virgin on high school debate team.

Thanks Mike! However, trust me! 205 hours is a 'drop in the bucket.' And to those wanting to swing their dicks with their win rates: I only track mine for my own measurement of my improvement. However crude a measurement it may be, it's the only way I know how to measure it with numbers. I can say, after reviewing hands after a session, that I didn't make nearly the mistakes I use to in the past. I can say I played X# of hands much better than in the past - however, it still boils down to: how does that compute to the improvement in my bottom line.

All 1/2NL

September 2015 - 74.46 hrs - lost $38.00. Running so bad that I took a week off & didn't come close to my usual 110 hrs per month.

August 2015 - 111.98 hours - win rate $12.74 per hour.

Combine the two - 182.5 hours - win rate $6.46 per hour.

More if you don't tip the dealer unless the pot is $60+

I was going to the question with: If anyone takes you serious & goes thru the trouble of answering you - they're a fish.......Then I saw this

Well played sir!

Let's put 150 hours in its proper perspective. Take a 1 pint spray bottle & fill it with water. Set the nozzle on a real fine mist & pump it once. That's almost 150 hours.......maybe.

Most excitement I had in my 5.1 hr session last night where I averaged <$10 per hour: I'm in seat 9. Seat 3 [whom I have perfect view of] & seat 6 go HU on the flop. 3 ck/calls 6's near pot size bet on a 9 high flop, that started out 6 way for $6.00. Jack on the turn, which doesn't pair the board. Seat 3 looks astonished & checks. Seat 6 bets & 3 ck/raises. Seat 6 calls. River comes with another jack. Seat 3 gives a mild frown & softly rocks his head back & forth. Then slowly looks down. Then donks a pot size bet. Seat 6 takes 15 seconds to call.

Seat 3 was a mid 20's Black guy & seat 6 was a 60+ white guy who never looked at his V. We all know what seat 3 had. I had a hard time not busting out loud. I am keeping a journal on all these classic tells that come from 1/2 fish & may offer up a COTM towards the end of the year. There is so much $$$$ to be made/saved paying attention!

Save that statement you made & look back it after you've logged 2500 hours sitting a poker table & ask yourself if you still believe it.

Just buy the most expensive. You won't be making a mistake.

Thanks for the reminder!

Concerning yourself with GTO in 1/2NL is a waste of time. Even true in many 2/5 donkathons. Just ask Suited Fours about Jacksonville Florida.

I said I would fold QQ, however, that was in the context of my having to call with a huge % of my total bankroll. For instance, there was a situation in the summer of 2014, where I had a 2.4k bankroll but went on a ~1k downswing. I thought I was going to have to keep my part-time job! Then, I found myself in a game for ~$500.00

I then won a 1.2k pot. It started out multi-way, then went 3 way on the flop after the raises. I won & was now sitting on ~1.5k with ~$900 of my bankroll not on the table.

If a guy, who had my 1.5k covered, went all-in pre-flop & showed AK, I would have auto-mucked my QQ.

This is more like variance rather than a break even stretch. You could get it in twice with AA and lose for 400bbs total which is normal variance over a 100hr sample size, but would really skew a 100/200hr sample

Congrats on never losing more than 100hrs in a row! What blind level is this?

GTO is a method to play unexploitably. It is not a way to maximize your winrate. It is more widely used to reduce ones losses when playing versus a superior player.

There is almost no reason to play GTO in live poker below 10/25

Fyp

I understand where you're coming from and wouldn't fault someone for folding QQ to a shove when a large % of your bankroll is on the table - although, as I alluded to in that debate, if you had the bankroll, it's a call- your anecdote is also a little different in context. That debate was about sitting at 2/5 with 1000 BI if I remember correctly, you're talking about 1/2, and having 750BB. Depending on the place, 2/5 deep BI can play rather loose because some Vs are trying to get deep fast, so they'll take a flip to try to get deeper with other players, not many people are slinging 750BB in light at 1/2 from what I've seen.

True.

Not exactly true, because it's all relative. If your table is full of really really bad players that are just extremely unbalanced, then naturally you want to also make unbalanced plays to exploit them.

But if you are at a table of observant players, then GTO could arguably be the most profitable way to play.

On the flip side, to win more when playing versus a strong player.

Absolute statement like this one just doesn't sit well with me.