You must play in the mirror universe to my room. In the year of Hell Yeah I win by cbetting at 3/5 and panic even with TP2K if the regs call. I almost never try to make 1/2 players fold.

8/28: +600 (6.5 hours, $92/hr)

1885/3000 (63% there)

Go out drinking with my buddies tonight or grind out another session for this challenge?

Ahahhaha flip a coin. Nice job. Would be great if you hit 3k considering all the smack talk in here.

Go out. You already have something to be proud of, and if you push it and don't get there because you're trying too hard, it will have an annoying psychological effect.

Your 1-2 success since Feb is remarkable, kudos

I'm back on the horse guys. I played 4 2/5 sessions in the last week. I have no idea what my bankroll is or if I'm ready but I bought in 1k at the tampa hard rock 2/5 because yolo. I think I'm prob rolled for that though.


I don't really track my money or wins and loses I just focusing on having an edge in the hand and playing close to my A game but I think I'm up 1100 in 4 sessions.

I got in 4 buy ins in my second session and bought in for the 4th one about 28 minutes before the dog track closed and lost only 80 bucks.

Def don't keep track, too much work and not important

well I've done it in the past it isn't really a matter of effort it's just so hard to get a true image of your edge when the game state changes so often and I evolve as a player as well. I feel like stat tracking just gives you something negative to focus on. I know im a 40$/h winner in a 100bb 2/5 game and I know I have enough money so the rest is just unneeded distraction. I'm almost at the point where I don't even know mid session if I'm winning or losing or how much I'm winning at the end.
I've only tracked my stats twice once when I had a volumn prop I lost and the other time I wanted to buy an apple watch so I tried to tell myself I could have one at 700 hours

Ya tracking is kind of a hassle - and if you know you are winning 40 per hr - whats the point?

SIAP, I track my results once a year, midnight-8:00am April 15th.

I also don't track.

I know I am a crusher winning at over $100/hr.

Although I don't have the actual cash - tooth fairies must have been jacking from me to give to local kids.

Did someone say tracking? Brothers, this is a great passion of mine...deers, rabbits, squirrels. My great great great great grandfather was 1/6 Sioux Indian.

Tracking

In before Johnny Buzz reports both drinking and blasting 1k at 1/2

I started recording my sessions since March this year, and it has been fun doing so:
- last 137 hours
- $35/hr
- about 25 sessions or so

Anyway, I've decided to not player poker again. Reasons? Psychological.

My most memorable times at the tables were not days where I made money, but rather the jokes, banter and laughter I shared with the larger than life characters that I was lucky enough to be sat with; whether they be young or old, novices or professionals. Because I've realized, that at the end of the day, I'm a recreational player, I'm here to have fun.

I would have loved to have played more poker but unfortunately, I don't feel that it is worth my free time to make spare time for poker. As a full time worker, I only make time, if at all, on Saturdays to play poker, but I feel that it is more valuable to spend this time with friends and family.

I enjoy playing 5/5 games here in Sydney but there is simply not enough demand for these games. And the last thing I want is to drive 30mins to the casino, only to be sat with people who buy in for the minimum, or $100, at 2/3 games and have to listen to them talking strat.
Even if I was offered $50/hr to sit through that sh*t for 6 hrs a week, I would still not do it.

Anyway, I wanted to write this up as a thank you to this forum for all the help that I've received from you guys. You guys are so generous with your time and feedback and there have been times when I've thought to myself, "Dude, WTF do you gain by being so awesome?"

With regard to the little contribution that I made to other people's threads. Well, I'm just not good enough.

Anyway, I thought I'd end by sharing the biggest pot that I've played. This was a 5/10/20 hand played in Melbourne back in May, where I was sat on a table which included (I later learnt) young Australian professional tournament poker players. The game was 10 handed, five players were fish (including me, although I didn't believe it at the time) and the other five were solid mid 20s regs who knew each other well.

5/10/20
Friday 12.00am - Melbourne

V (UTG, $2500) mid 20s Asian male currently down $6,000.
Hero (BB, $2000) mid 20s fish

V raises to $60, three callers, Hero 3-bets to $310 with QQ, only V calls.

Flop ($800) J63

Hero bets $525
Villain insta-announces all in for $2,190
Hero tanks for two minutes before calling.
Villain asks, "How many times do you want to run it?"
Hero: "Once"

Turn (~$4,000) 10

River (~$4,000) Q

Hero shows pocket queens for set on the river.
Villain mucks
Small blind says "Wow, I folded KQ"
Villain tells his mate he had KK.
Table starts discussing the hand amongst themselves and about the one outer while I'm just glad I broke even for the day.

***

Anyway, hope you enjoyed that, thanks again to 2p2 and this forum and of course.. good luck at the tables.

danhendo888

No reason to quit completely Dan.

Maybe after a break, you'll join the once a week club like a few of us others. By limiting your play you may retain a sustainable passion for it

RIP danhendo888

Good luck and best wishes Dan. I hope you shrugged and said "I put you on 54".

What's your hourly with them?

See you at llsnl meetup next year obv.

I would read Jared's 2 volume set on the mental game while you're there.

I thought Miller's number was high, but I guess it is possible for an "average winning player" to go on a $30,000.00 downswing playing 2/5. I know a good 2/5 player who won 4k over 10 days, then lost 5k over ~10 days, etc., etc.

And how would you know, spending your time on 2+2 averaging 12.25 posts per day?

that's nothing I averaged 27 posts per day on MLG over a year and a half period.

anyway the skill gap between 2/5 and 1/2 is pretty large, the reason people can see such huge rate gap is because of the high rake effect at 1/2 and the generally more shallow stacks.

it's a simple matter of how few full time very good professionals play 1/2, the presence of even one of those in your game lowers your winrate by a lot. many 2/5 games have 3-4 winners in the game at any time, some of them who are very big winners.

so yeah basically
1/2 is probably more than twice as easy but the rake is higher in proportion to your average pot
the stacks stay shallower generally due to more risk averse recreational players

2/5 is much tougher but you reach the rake cap much more easily creating a rake freeroll, the stacks are generally deeper but don't get in as easily which means the last 100 big blinds isn't as accessible as the first 100.

When I to played sit and gos I had it explained to me just how much it effects everyones rate winners and losers when there is one guy winning in a game, 2 even more so and so on.

So the skill gap is huge because...

Rate gap? Though poorly written, I am assuming you're referring to 2/5 as higher win rate.

So higher win rate because of fewer shallow stacks makes 2/5 harder?

So there are more winners in 2/5 games, therefore the game is harder?

Wouldn't it mean that the game is easier if there are more winners?

Wait, wouldn't that be building a case that 1/2 is harder?

So it's easy to win the first 100bb of effective stack, but not to much for 200bb, and therefore the game is harder?

Do you not understand that sit-n-go is very different than cash game?

Bottom line, you have presented zero coherent thought as to how the skill gap between two games is pretty big.