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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

08-02-2015 , 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdsallSa
Really? I thought it totally missed the point. I think you're just praising him because you dislike RP and want to disagree with him even if it means agreeing with whatever that post was supposed to be.
really because I think it didn't miss the point and since I opened the post calling them both wrong I'm gonna say it's unlikely he will agree with anyone.


also it's funny to me how people are the first people to disagree with you but they never actually address your points, they just call them bad.

never change, internet.
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08-02-2015 , 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BirdsallSa
Really? I thought it totally missed the point. I think you're just praising him because you dislike RP and want to disagree with him even if it means agreeing with whatever that post was supposed to be.
You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.
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08-02-2015 , 10:17 PM
Don't worry, be happy.
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08-02-2015 , 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
How long did it last? How big of a reality check was it?



I'll check back in in another 50
My first 50 hrs were >$100/hr. Then in one weekend it went down to about $50/hr. I think I'm remembering it that way. I honestly don't know how long it would have lasted. I had to quit playing right after that and haven't made it back up. I'm like 99% positive I'll be a big winner in the game just no idea how much. It's kind of frustrating to lose your entire bankroll on non poker related stuff and have to wait like a year to get back to better stakes.
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08-03-2015 , 12:00 AM
Where I am from, we don't back down from arguments, not even really bad ones.

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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
People call down new players light, nature of suspicious poker players.

New players are also slightly more aggressive, nature of unsuspecting poker players.

venice had always said this, once regs get to know you, expect WR to drop.
Was a pretty general comment, and even the targeted person agreed.

As pointed out, general comments are not always most accurate when we get to the specifics:

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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
If you're the very cream of the crop top 1-3 players of a small ish player pool, there is a reverse trend that happens once you adapt to the regs adapting to your game. Sure for a short period of time before this happens there will be a adjustment period where you don't make as much as you did when you first started, i acknowledge that. But once you really pinpoint the way players really perceive you, it doesn't matter much anymore; you can figure out ways to exploit that and thus your winrate goes back ⬆️⬆️
And I agree P4MS going deeper on my general comment, and apparently Mr. Haterade drinker did, too:

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Originally Posted by ATsai
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Originally Posted by Pay4Myschool
If you're the very cream of the crop top 1-3 players of a small ish player pool, there is a reverse trend that happens once you adapt to the regs adapting to your game. Sure for a short period of time before this happens there will be a adjustment period where you don't make as much as you did when you first started, i acknowledge that. But once you really pinpoint the way players really perceive you, it doesn't matter much anymore; you can figure out ways to exploit that and thus your winrate goes back ⬆️⬆️
+1.
But then somehow...this came up out of nowhere:

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Originally Posted by ATsai
Calling BS on this.

When I first started playing in a small player pool in 2008, my win rate definitely increased over time when regs got to know me because they would give me insane amounts of action. Then when I switched to another somewhat small player pool in 2012, the same thing happened. The regs would get to know me, and my win rate would increase because they would give me a ton of action.
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Originally Posted by ATsai
It is completely backwards to say that your win rate will be highest when you first enter a new player pool.
So apparently my general statement was way off because happy guy says his experience is the opposite.

Then apparently it was all my fault even though I paraphrased venice (sorry to drag you into this):

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Originally Posted by ATsai
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
venice had always said this, once regs get to know you, expect WR to drop.
The above statement is complete trash and opposite of the truth as a response to the winning LLSNL posters who were discussing their short-term win-rate results and wondering about their future results at a new stake (1/2 player who recently moved up to 2/5, for example)

Enough said.
Funniest thing is, Mr. Haterade/happy guy, conveniently ignored the part that I said that venice said...

Then of course, now opinions are also right or wrong:

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Originally Posted by ATsai
You are entitled to your incorrect opinion.
So hey Mr. Happy guy, chill out?
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08-03-2015 , 12:59 AM
Bad players are bad. If they tighten bad, they will over correct and fold too much. They don't go from calling to much to GTO optimal calling range; also at that point if the table is folding around you can manifest a lag image by widening in position, and they'll start calling too much in the wrong spots.

If you're a nit and people adjust to you and you still play as a nit, then yes your WR will drop a bit from the regs, but even then not much as your biggest pots as a nit come from the station and gamblers who frequent all poker rooms.
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08-03-2015 , 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by letzplayHU
Bad players are bad. If they tighten bad, they will over correct and fold too much. They don't go from calling to much to GTO optimal calling range; also at that point if the table is folding around you can manifest a lag image by widening in position, and they'll start calling too much in the wrong spots.

If you're a nit and people adjust to you and you still play as a nit, then yes your WR will drop a bit from the regs, but even then not much as your biggest pots as a nit come from the station and gamblers who frequent all poker rooms.
Put that on a T-Shirt.
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08-04-2015 , 11:08 AM
OMG enough with the GTO. Do we need to resticky the COTM on this?
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08-06-2015 , 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Lost loads at my 1/3 game last night, ending the hot streak:

Hours Profit
5.18 $260.00
5.45 $1,855.00
5.00 $300.00
5.43 $632.00
5.18 $1,940.00
5.55 $510.00
5.38 $825.00
5.65 $908.00
5.58 $425.00
5.10 ($203.00)
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Wow! Do you play a high variance style? Your two large wins would both make 2nd place on my all time biggest wins list, and your big loss ties my 2nd biggest ever loss, all the while putting in relatively short sessions compared to mine (I average ~8ish hours per session).

Gnicerun,toobadaboutlastsession!G
Rebound!

5.18 $260.00
5.45 $1,855.00
5.00 $300.00
5.43 $632.00
5.18 $1,940.00
5.55 $510.00
5.38 $825.00
5.65 $908.00
5.58 $425.00
5.10 ($203.00)
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
5.68 $1,220.00
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08-07-2015 , 10:22 AM
damn you run good! 9 in a row is beautiful
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08-07-2015 , 10:46 AM
The post about "hence" was hilarious.
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08-07-2015 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bluegrassplayer
The post about "hence" was hilarious.
im curious as to why you say that? this might be my burgerz but I can't tell if it's a compliment or not
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08-07-2015 , 09:16 PM
I know this is sort of a hazy question:

How achievable is 15/hr at 1-3 100-300 7 max @ 10%?
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08-07-2015 , 09:28 PM
Shouldn't be hard at all.
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08-07-2015 , 10:37 PM
uncapped rake? sorry if this is obvious - what does the 10% mean?
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08-07-2015 , 10:42 PM
10% rake at $7 max.
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08-07-2015 , 11:19 PM
lol, I read that as 7 seat max, as if a unique underground game, knew I was tired.

agree with your answer, as most 1-3s just as soft as 1-2. would be toughest in rooms where many buy in short.
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08-08-2015 , 12:19 AM
15 an hour is easily attainable
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08-08-2015 , 12:25 AM
I would venture to say the double that is attainable. Not necessarily easy, but doable. $15.hr should be easily attained by any non terrible player.
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08-08-2015 , 12:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Warsaw12
I know this is sort of a hazy question:

How achievable is 15/hr at 1-3 100-300 7 max @ 10%?
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Originally Posted by Richard Parker
Shouldn't be hard at all.
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Originally Posted by JamesGreen
15 an hour is easily attainable
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Originally Posted by spikeraw22
I would venture to say the double that is attainable. Not necessarily easy, but doable. $15.hr should be easily attained by any non terrible player.
I don't mean to git all ricky p on all y'all asses but ya its ez for maybe 2% of the playerpool in that game.

Doable yes - ez $ phuc no
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08-08-2015 , 01:16 AM
2%?

Is that a serious number or are you just exaggerating?
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08-08-2015 , 01:38 AM
Winning 5bb/hr in a room that caps at 2-1/3bb is probably close to top 2%.

That number is debatable, but at best top 5%.
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08-08-2015 , 02:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Warsaw12
2%?

Is that a serious number or are you just exaggerating?
Think about it yourself. How could he possibly validate that number? Anyway it really doesn't matter what percentage of the player pool does it as that wasn't your question. It has been attained before and it will be attained again.
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08-08-2015 , 03:14 AM
That's way possible. Not easy though.
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08-08-2015 , 04:25 AM
What would make it "not easy?"

Beating the players?

The rake?

Something else?
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