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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

07-09-2015 , 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Garick
Feel free to update your winrate, bankroll, and/or finances, but no asking for stakes in this forum. There is a forum for that, and further ignoring of this forum's rules will lead to infractions and/or banning.

**** this guy said he was gonna make me ALOT of money. I wanted to steak and you cock blocked me
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07-09-2015 , 07:43 PM
I keep track of all promotion/bbj etc. Money won, but do not factor it into my win rate. Reason I don't include in my win rate is because for me, hourly win rate is gauge of my actual playing ability and growth, and gives me rough idea what I should expect to be making.

BBJ is basically found money. I can't use previous wins as an idea to predict future wins. Hell, first time I ever played NLH in a casino I was on the losing side of a bad beat. Didn't even know what a BBJ was and came close to mucking my hand - and seriously freaked the table out in the process. Anyone seriously think that money should be factored into win rate? Pretty damn good hourly!

I also regularly get free slot play. I keep track of that money separate from everything else. However It is actually reasonable to guesstimate future free slot earnings. I receive regular, predictable free slot play based on my players card (totally earned from poker). Slots on a aggregate pay out set % of every dollar deposited. When I get $100 in free play, I sit my ass in front of a $1 machine and mash that button exactly 100 times, then cash out. I'm in my 40s and have never put a dime of my own money in one of those stupid things.



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07-09-2015 , 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
I keep track of all promotion/bbj etc. Money won, but do not factor it into my win rate. Reason I don't include in my win rate is because for me, hourly win rate is gauge of my actual playing ability and growth, and gives me rough idea what I should expect to be making.
Exaxtly.
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07-09-2015 , 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Randal_Graves
When I sit down I know I have to pay a fee to do so (rake). So my hourly isn't based on what it would be if I played rake free poker because that doesn't exist. If you wanna give yourself inflated fairy tale numbers based on what you would make if you didn't have to pay rake and promo money be my guest.
Do you factor income taxes into your win rate?
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07-10-2015 , 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by danhendo888
Good enough for what? Be specific, son.
In general.
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07-10-2015 , 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead

I also regularly get free slot play. I keep track of that money separate from everything else. However It is actually reasonable to guesstimate future free slot earnings. I receive regular, predictable free slot play based on my players card (totally earned from poker). Slots on a aggregate pay out set % of every dollar deposited. When I get $100 in free play, I sit my ass in front of a $1 machine and mash that button exactly 100 times, then cash out. I'm in my 40s and have never put a dime of my own money in one of those stupid things.



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I do the same however I head to the high stakes slot room and do $50+ pulls. I am 11 for 12 in slot machine sessions lifetime with an hourly approaching $4000...
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07-10-2015 , 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by I.G.
I do the same however I head to the high stakes slot room and do $50+ pulls. I am 11 for 12 in slot machine sessions lifetime with an hourly approaching $4000...

I follow your personal thread. We both play in the same room. My strategy is a $1 a pull to reduce variance, but so far looks like your way is better as you are crushing my win rate.

Well done!

I am lifetime running +EV with my free slot play.


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07-10-2015 , 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead

I am lifetime running +EV with my free slot play.

Is it possible to not run +EV with free slot play?
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07-10-2015 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Submerged
Is it possible to not run +EV with free slot play?
Calculate free slot EV as x% times free slot play amount where x% is average payout percentage at your casino.

So if you have $100 free slots and average payout of 94%, you have about $94 in equity.

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07-10-2015 , 08:20 PM
I've only started playing 1/2 live seriously for 2 months, once a week. After 60 hours (small sample, I know) across 7 sessions I'm at $48/hr. Built my BR to $2200 from an initial $200 in seed money.
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07-10-2015 , 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by LittlePud
I've only started playing 1/2 live seriously for 2 months, once a week. After 60 hours (small sample, I know) across 7 sessions I'm at $48/hr. Built my BR to $2200 from an initial $200 in seed money.
Good job. Keep playing.
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07-22-2015 , 03:28 AM
hmm ... really starting to get the 2/5 bug now. players are just as bad as 1/2 players, just in different ways. still so many limp callers and people just limping/open raising horrible ranges.

the lack of short stackers at 2/5 (most people buy in for 1000 at my room, i seem to be the lone 500 stacker) has me thinking this game will be even more lucrative in terms of BB/hr winrate, even accounting for the slightly better players

played a 5.5 hour session tonight. got felted on the FIRST HAND at the table (new table opened) when i stacked off with AK on KT9ss flop 3-way SPR ~5 and lost to a flush

still ended the session +$560

BR now at $15k. may not play 1/2 again unless i go on a bad 2/5 downswing. starting to feel really comfortable playing a tightened up version of my 1/2 game. think i'll keep playing 2/5 tight (range that dominates V's) until i get more experience and can start buying in for 1000 and playing looser in LP

2/5 test run in july


Last edited by johnnyBuz; 07-22-2015 at 03:34 AM.
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07-22-2015 , 11:31 AM
Nice start out of the gates Johnny!

Ggoodluck!G
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07-22-2015 , 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
I follow your personal thread. We both play in the same room. My strategy is a $1 a pull to reduce variance, but so far looks like your way is better as you are crushing my win rate.
If you are trying to win at a game that is -EV, you want to maximize your variance. DUCY?
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07-22-2015 , 12:30 PM
After going full time in September, I am managing a $19.71/hr over 1200 hours at 1/2nl and maybe 25 hours of 2/5nl mixed in.
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07-22-2015 , 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TobiasReiper
After going full time in September, I am managing a $19.71/hr over 1200 hours at 1/2nl and maybe 25 hours of 2/5nl mixed in.
Nice start!

Any thoughts on getting into the job market eventually, and keeping poker as a side income / hobby?

GpokerhobbiestG
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07-22-2015 , 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by TobiasReiper
After going full time in September, I am managing a $19.71/hr over 1200 hours at 1/2nl and maybe 25 hours of 2/5nl mixed in.
Solid & believable stats

And yes, poker as side income is literally always better if you have any sort of desirable job market attributes, credentials
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07-22-2015 , 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by TobiasReiper
After going full time in September, I am managing a $19.71/hr over 1200 hours at 1/2nl and maybe 25 hours of 2/5nl mixed in.
That's pretty damn good for 1200 hours.

How much do you think your local game, or your personal play has changed over that time?
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07-22-2015 , 01:31 PM
$20/hr can't even cover self medicating cost of spending more than 5 hours a week in a casino.
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07-22-2015 , 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ZippyThePinhead
I keep track of all promotion/bbj etc. Money won, but do not factor it into my win rate. Reason I don't include in my win rate is because for me, hourly win rate is gauge of my actual playing ability and growth, and gives me rough idea what I should expect to be making.

BBJ is basically found money. I can't use previous wins as an idea to predict future wins. Hell, first time I ever played NLH in a casino I was on the losing side of a bad beat. Didn't even know what a BBJ was and came close to mucking my hand - and seriously freaked the table out in the process. Anyone seriously think that money should be factored into win rate? Pretty damn good hourly!

I also regularly get free slot play. I keep track of that money separate from everything else. However It is actually reasonable to guesstimate future free slot earnings. I receive regular, predictable free slot play based on my players card (totally earned from poker). Slots on a aggregate pay out set % of every dollar deposited. When I get $100 in free play, I sit my ass in front of a $1 machine and mash that button exactly 100 times, then cash out. I'm in my 40s and have never put a dime of my own money in one of those stupid things.



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Spew unless the free slot play doesn't allow video poker.

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07-22-2015 , 03:00 PM
Lost loads at my 1/3 game last night, ending the hot streak:

Hours Profit
5.18 $260.00
5.45 $1,855.00
5.00 $300.00
5.43 $632.00
5.18 $1,940.00
5.55 $510.00
5.38 $825.00
5.65 $908.00
5.58 $425.00
5.10 ($203.00)
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
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07-22-2015 , 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
hmm ... really starting to get the 2/5 bug now. players are just as bad as 1/2 players, just in different ways. still so many limp callers and people just limping/open raising horrible ranges.

the lack of short stackers at 2/5 (most people buy in for 1000 at my room, i seem to be the lone 500 stacker) has me thinking this game will be even more lucrative in terms of BB/hr winrate, even accounting for the slightly better players

played a 5.5 hour session tonight. got felted on the FIRST HAND at the table (new table opened) when i stacked off with AK on KT9ss flop 3-way SPR ~5 and lost to a flush

still ended the session +$560

BR now at $15k. may not play 1/2 again unless i go on a bad 2/5 downswing. starting to feel really comfortable playing a tightened up version of my 1/2 game. think i'll keep playing 2/5 tight (range that dominates V's) until i get more experience and can start buying in for 1000 and playing looser in LP

2/5 test run in july

You should play 2/5. Run good. Never look back.
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07-22-2015 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Lost loads at my 1/3 game last night, ending the hot streak:

Hours Profit
5.18 $260.00
5.45 $1,855.00
5.00 $300.00
5.43 $632.00
5.18 $1,940.00
5.55 $510.00
5.38 $825.00
5.65 $908.00
5.58 $425.00
5.10 ($203.00)
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
Wow! Do you play a high variance style? Your two large wins would both make 2nd place on my all time biggest wins list, and your big loss ties my 2nd biggest ever loss, all the while putting in relatively short sessions compared to mine (I average ~8ish hours per session).

Gnicerun,toobadaboutlastsession!G
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07-22-2015 , 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by gobbledygeek
Wow! Do you play a high variance style? Your two large wins would both make 2nd place on my all time biggest wins list, and your big loss ties my 2nd biggest ever loss, all the while putting in relatively short sessions compared to mine (I average ~8ish hours per session).

Gnicerun,toobadaboutlastsession!G
I play a very high variance style. There are a few whales in my player pool that are always there, and I put alot of value on building a big stack early in the night so that I can be sitting deep with the whales later in the session (I've had one player consistently snap off my 3b shoves for $800+ effective with 99-QQ or AK). This involves taking highly aggressive lines early on and pushing position and draws heavily vs the non-whales. Somehow all the villains haven't caught on on how to exploit me as I get tons of folds from them.
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07-22-2015 , 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DonkeyCopter
Lost loads at my 1/3 game last night, ending the hot streak:

Hours Profit
5.18 $260.00
5.45 $1,855.00
5.00 $300.00
5.43 $632.00
5.18 $1,940.00
5.55 $510.00
5.38 $825.00
5.65 $908.00
5.58 $425.00
5.10 ($203.00)
5.50 $865.00
5.52 ($1,100.00)
Those are some sick scores for a 1/3 ($500 max?) keep it up. Brush off the last one - those nights are bound to happen with your style.
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