Yo, is that dollars or BBs on the y-axis?

I wish it was in big blinds but unfortunately its in dollars. I only started playing regularly since the beginning of the year for 8 to 10 hours a week.

Ridiculous 9-session win streak. All 1/3:

Date Hours Profit
5/13/2015 5.18 $260.00
5/20/2015 5.45 $1,855.00
5/27/2015 5.00 $300.00
6/3/2015 5.43 $632.00
6/10/2015 5.18 $1,940.00
6/16/2015 5.55 $510.00
6/24/2015 5.38 $825.00
7/1/2015 5.65 $908.00
7/8/2015 5.58 $425.00

$7655 total

You can't be serious dude. Including promotion winnings into your winrate is ridiculous enough, but to go ahead and include BBJP winnings is comically outrageous. Way to give yourself a false sense of confidence.

Is $10.4/hr over 1000 hours over 90% 1/3 and 10% 1/2 and 2/5 combined good enough?

Good enough for what? Be specific, son.

Of course you should include them. You're paying the tax of the jackpot drop all the time.

Keeping good records means keeping records of everything, not picking and choosing. Although, it *should* be labeled as a different game. So when you plot overall wins and losses it shows up, but when you plot $1/2 only it doesn't.

If you had a job that offered you quarterly bonuses would you not include that as your income?

quarterly bonuses =/= lottery winnings

LOL...seriously?

Odds of hitting badbeat jackpot: http://www.pokerlistings.com/strateg...-beat-jackpots

Sure if you really want to consider it as part of your win rate...

You might have better chance to increase your WR by looking for loose change while you're in the casino.

It doesn't really matter what the chances are. You pay extra rake for the chance to hit, and if you do, then it can be included in your overall rate (maybe not necessarily attributed to a particular stake). It's not like you add $1 for every hand you win to your winrate if you are playing at a BBJ casino.

I've won maybe 1000 hands at casinos where extra rake is taken for promotions, and I've hit a players share of a BBJ for $1100, so my accounting of that $1100 (minus tax) probably evens about out.

Sure, but do you not see the issue of using something that as part of your WR calculation?

Example:

Without BBJ: 1bb/hr

With BBJ: 12bb/hr

Breakeven player is now a crusher?

I put promo winnings into my roll but don't put it towards my results.

I guess it just depends on the story you want to tell yourself with your winrate. In your example, if the casino is raking heavily and you think you may be paying 10bb/hour in promo drops, then I don't mind using the:

With BBJ: 12bb/hr

Obviously someone who goes to the casino for the second time and hits the BBJ for 40k at a 1/2 table shouldn't say they win $4000/ hour or whatever.

Optimally you would figure out what you pay in promo drops and what the EV of each dollar paid is and adjust your WR by it regardless of what promos you win.

Seriously? ROFL.

Have you never considered the odds of winning BBJ, even just table share?

If I ever won a promo, this is what I'd do.

There's a reg in my room who won the 50% of a BBJ a few years ago for around $250k.

He took his new roll and got crushed at $5/10. Then he moved down to $2/5 where he continued to get crushed. The same for $1/2. Now he plays $1/1. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still up from the BBJ win but to consider him a winning player is ludicrous.

The only reason the odds matter is how they play into EV.

I'm not arguing that a terrible player that hits the BBJ to put himself into profit can be considered a long-term winner. There is value however in knowing how much you actually made from playing poker (including promos), aside from what you calculate your hourly to most likely be going forward.

Lol, I'm in a similar boat this year. I'm destroying your winrate by posting an incredibly impressive and bragworthy $4.93/hr over 267 hours in my 1/3 NL game.

Glolz@2015G

When I sit down I know I have to pay a fee to do so (rake). So my hourly isn't based on what it would be if I played rake free poker because that doesn't exist. If you wanna give yourself inflated fairy tale numbers based on what you would make if you didn't have to pay rake and promo money be my guest.

Of course, basically calculating EV of promotion - jackpot drop.

But BBJ is obviously an entirely different animal.

True fact: Over 1,353 hours of live 2/4 Limit, my winrate is $25.03/hr. Which I'm pretty sure makes me the greatest 2/4 Limit player that has ever lived. Oh, wait, am I not supposed to include the BBJ I hit?

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I don't think we disagree..

When you cast a wide net, you're gonna catch a lot of fish.

But some of us were looking for only tuna.

The BBJ is a break even bet over the super long term. You put in 1$/pot and can go years without hitting it, then you hit it and are even again.

It's just an extra helping of variance.

I guess if my plan is to tip 5%, then basically I'm losing $0.05 every time I win a pot. But that's a fair price for the bad players/loose play that the jackpot creates.

Anyway, if you don't add the jackpot into your winrate you will be underreporting it. But if you do, and you are running above EV in jackpots, it'll be over reported.

Personally I think I would add it to my roll/winrate but include it as its own "session" so I could filter it out easily.

EDIT: I forgot to include taxes which are probably like 40%. So really we are dropping $0.55 each time we pay it. Still probably worth it for the action/donks it draws in, but that does make it a much worse bet.

Feel free to update your winrate, bankroll, and/or finances, but no asking for stakes in this forum. There is a forum for that, and further ignoring of this forum's rules will lead to infractions and/or banning.