If I raise From UTG and strong players will call on the button with K6off? No. Experienced players play much tighter pre than inexperienced players

It depends...

Your statement implies that strong player must open with a strong range, and an experienced player wouldn't call without an even stronger range.

So much wrong in that statement.

That is your statement not mine. You are making multiple false arguments. I'm not going to argue your points that I never made.

Just a little bit ago before leaving to the airport played a game with 3 players that have seemingly never played poker before (ballys 1/2). Much easier to spew against those guys than players that have a fold button. (Spewed only $50, would have been $200 but somehow I table talked a kid into folding a hand...and by hand I mean a very weak hand that anyone with a brain would have folded)

Sounds like a leak, not support to your argument.

Read to me that you are too aggro against bad players and fold too much against good players.

Both sound like leak.

I don't want to get in no dick swinging contest, but if I am up against a "good" player, my calling range gets bigger, not smaller.

But then again, our definition of "good" is probably very different.

Of course it's a leak lol wtf do u think I was talking about?

1. poker is a guessing game. you take the line you believe is going to be most profitable with the incomplete information you have. Just saying, in my experience, deep stacks = action table. You can always change again if it's wrong.

Your anecdote supports my theory however. If you're looking at players and not stack sizes you would say "oh old nitty guy, I don't want to be there". But old guy is tilted or something and loosened up for whatever reason. Best way to find out would be scout the action for 15 minutes but that's just not realistic. Stack depth is much faster and a pretty good predictive statistic.

2. actually the deep stacks are mostly going to be looser players, since it's easier to get a deep stack playing more hands (easier to lose a stack playing more hands too of course)

besides, tight != good. There are always going to be tight players. I'd rather they be deeper if they must be there.

I'm not even saying "most chips is always the best table". But you need to find out what the best table is as fast as possible. Stack depth is the easiest thing to spot and the deepest table is the best table more often than not.

3. it's true you can't know when players are leaving but... that goes for all players. 30 minutes at the best table is better than 0 minutes there. Again, you can always get another table change if things go sour.

4. your belief that there's only one correct way to play at low stakes based on what you've seen of bad aggressive or outright spewy players is very wrong. There is no reason a good player should pass on profitable spots and just "wait for a hand". Unless you are getting three streets of value whenever you desire, there is a way to exploit players in your game folding, even if you can't figure it out.

You're right that having two nits on your left is a good thing but picking a juicy table is by far more important. Worry about seat selection once you've got table selection sorted.

had a pretty good night at 1/2 last night. bankroll around $11,000. trying to decide what i want to do. my original goal was to play 2/5 once i got to 15-20k but that is quickly approaching and i feel i still have a lot of learning/experimentation to work on. i've been sitting in 2/5 once every two weeks or so but don't want to make it my game right now. but the other guy on my opposite shoulder is saying "take a shot. the money is better there."

When there's no such thing as complete information, calling it incomplete is misleading. Using all the info available and coming up with the optimal course of action isn't a guessing game. It's the exact opposite of a guessing game.

1 hand in 5 hours isn't enough for me to say "I was wrong, he's not a nit, he's a crazy aggro and this table is the loosest ever." It was the exception not the norm. Using that as a reason to say the table is spewy is molding a conclusion to support a few facts not using the facts to form the correct conclusion.

Depends on how many buyins the guy is willing to go through. If he's playing it like a rebuy yeah, you don't notice the guys who go through 2 buyins in 30 minutes and leave though and leave the 15/10 guys with all the money.

I'd couple the stacks sizes with the personalities. You can walk through the room and pretend to watch TV near every table for 30 seconds and get a great idea of the player types and then combine it with the stack sizes. If it took hours to get the personalities down then I'd go on just stack sizes but it doesn't take much to figure out the people.

The best seat isn't always at the best table. Unless the crazy aggros and stations are sitting consecutively, the deepest/loosest game can fail to have a good seat.

But this pi$$es me off the most. This is at least the 2nd time you've done this recently. Copy and paste where I said the bolded. And after hours of searching through my posts and not finding where I said it because I never did, make that the last time you claim I said something I didn't.

Sitting next to a nit and not playing hands that'll make you money aren't the same thing in the least. I said the first, never said anything close to the second.

So if there's a seat open at a table with the 8 worst players in history who all have 500bb but it isn't a "good seat" I should pass it up because there's another table with 2 nits sitting next to each other and a seat open to their direct right?

Are you full time?

Johnny, I think you should take shots at 2/5. I don't see how it could hurt.

I have a full-time job but I've consistently been putting in 3-4 days (15-20 hours) a week for the last few months. Running $35/hr over my last 300 hours.

11k is definitely way more than enough to take a shot/move to 2/5, especially since you have a full-time job/separate life roll.

being too comfortable with where you are and being a bankroll nit is a life leak imo. once upon a time i had a 4500 roll for live poker playing 1/2, took a shot at 2/5 and never looked back

the bigger your edge/winrate is, the less the standard bankroll guidelines apply to you

GL!

I've never seen it. I know of one guy who beats Winstar 2/5 for $80/hr (2k-hour sample), but that's the single biggest long term winrate I've seen at 2/5, or for that matter any level in terms of bb/hr.

Imo, the way to go is to keep grinding out 1/2 and take shots at 2/5 only when you see a really good game. As your roll continues to grow you can slowly lower the standards of how good the 2/5 game needs to be.

Also, as you move up, don't fall into the trap of being a "2/5 player." You will be much better off, being willing to play any level depending on game quality and bankroll circumstances. Good luck.

I was thinking $85 is attainable but who really knows. There are so many variables involved and variance is a thing that can skew results even in a 2k hour sample.

Who's considered the best live 2/5nl player in the world? is it Doug Hull..anyone know/ guess what his winrate is at 2/5nl?

Why would he be considered the best 2/5 player in the world?

If his real life Villains always did exactly what he wanted, like the Villains in Poker Plays You Can Use, he might be.

Lately its Duke.

He plays 3/5 bruh. Completely different game.

Pretty sure it's me, and I am also world's tallest midget.

About $3.50

Being the best 2/5 player is like being the best looking person in Kansas. It's not exactly an accomplishment.