If you were able to beat 5/10 online pre BF (I assume you mean NLHE), you will have no problem in pretty well any 2/5 game live.

I just think you BR is too small. If you BR was 10,500 and you had a life roll of 3 months living expenses saved up in a separate account, I would say take a shot at 2/5. I would recommend playing 1/3 till you have 10,000+3 months living expenses. Then move the living expenses to a separate account. Then take a shot at 2/5.

This.

I agree I'm principle but there is a definite learning curve going from online to live. There's no HUDs, you actually have to pay attention and no stats on people you've never seen before. Plus people react differently when actually pulling money out of a wallet to rebuy rather then just clicking. Heck I.even had a friend who was a solid winner online but always flashed his cards when looking at them in a casino. I always recommend spending time at a lower game until you're used to all the aspects of the live game


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Related question. I have a $6300 BR that is solely for poker. I'm planning on taking a shot or two at 2/5 here soon. Just wondering how many bullets is too many bullets. Was thinking like $1000 to chip up a buy in and then just go back down if it doesn't go well. Have a significant edge in $1/2 so really not worried about going busto or anything.

If that's just a poker roll, and you have a proven record of beating up 1/2 that's perfectly fine.

Also good luck bro.

personally id take shots at 8k if there is no limit between 1/2 and 2/5

I started with a 1.2k bankroll and play 2-5. So far I am up 1100 in 4 sessions and buyin for 400$ a session.

I dont recommend it but it was more of a challenge than anything. I am trying to turn 1.2k to 5k in a couple months. I played tighter at first and the people are horrible. Since they think I am tight, I can bluff at some big pots and take them down most of thr time. Bad players and tighter play is the way to go. Also, I see that aggression against weak oppnents pays off most of the time. People don't understand how to react to aggressive play and make big mistakes

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The biggest reason I don't shot-take at 2/5 is because I have about -$2,000. (Yes, negative, I have access to money but owe loans to the guy that made me and the stupid federal government, so it's < $0.) When there's someone who makes six figures a year and has over 6grand put aside that he doesn't need to touch in order to keep living, and he's still worried that he doesn't have enough to play 2/5, it makes me really mad and a little sick.

Wait, you're a made man? HOW ARE YOU NOT TAKING SHOTS???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_man

^ Mad props lol. I been saying that for a while, [obv] meaning my dad, no one's ever come back with that though. Most of the time someone says "He made you do what?"

Those people are dumb. Or have never seen goodfellas

Sorry to offend.

I keep it 100% segregated. If its not the old lady will not tolerate it. Hence the preoccupation with brm.

I know what it's like to be broke. The first 33 years of my life were broke. You'll get there.

This is completely standard right? I played about 50 hours for a profit of $1k before I started taking it seriously and logging my sessions so the stats aren't quite as bad as they seem. Haven't had a winning session bigger than +75bb since April 12. It's all 1/2 at MDL, CT and now Vegas for the past week.



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For the reasons you posted I would be shot taking with 2300 since your risk of ruin is practically nil at 1/2 as you have noted while the opportunity of shot taking a higher game is so much higher.

That's not to say that you need to take 2.3k to the table or that if you are in a bad game/not playing the best just leave the 2/5 game. But grinding 1/2 with just poker money while you already have a job and living expenses covered is just a huge waste of time IMO.

There is a stickied thread here about shot taking which basically explains my thoughts on it to the T.

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Kind of how I'm starting to think about it. I really wanted to do it the right way and grind it from 0 to ~ without a stupid shot higher up. I think I'm in a pretty good spot for it now. Will see how it goes.

Its not a huge sample so I wouldnt be super concerned. Just keep working on your game. How much of that is vegas though? Ive been playing there the last few nights and these games are playing like the thin profit high variance games I used to play online.

Only 20 of the 170 hours are Vegas, and I totally agree that Vegas games, even 1/2, seemed pretty dang tough over the past week. Makes me grateful that MDL is my home casino

Lol, mdl right now >> Vegas in early June >>>>>>>>>>>>>mdl the past 4 months. Table selection imo.

If the games are good then I'd recommend using a bankroll of $3k to take shots at 2/5 with a $1k stop loss.

If you use a stop loss and have a full bankroll, then I think $1500 is typically a good stop loss #, maybe $2k if you have a loose style and aren't too tiltable. Anything over that and you might as well not have a stop loss.

I don't even know what you mean by "this is standard." Standard results for someone that is just starting to take the game seriously? I suppose so. Problem is, if you are looking for answers in your results you are probably looking in the wrong place. I've seen a huge fish go on a year long heater (over 500 hrs). It's rare, but it happens.

Point is, don't look for the answers in your results. They are misleading. Look for your answers at the table. Analyze your opponents play and see if you see holes in their game. When you see a lot of holes in your opponents' game that are not holes in your game then you can be confident that you are a winning player. If you start also noticing a lot of mistakes that winning players make that you do not make then it's quite likely that you are crushing.

Also, it goes without saying analyze your own play critically to find areas of improvement.

Thanks GPAD, figured as much. I do see leaks of other players, even the winning ones, that I don't make so that's a good sign. Will keep grinding and see what happens.

What percent of sessions are you guys winning?

I think average is near 65%. I have 69.7% right now, not huge sample though, under 100 sessions. I also play in a limited-profit, low-variance game. Should probably ask for the % and the region (MW).

Currently sitting at 71.8% over 227 1/3NL sessions (average session length is 7.7 hours).

GrunninggoodG

69.7% this calendar year and I play full time