What would a safety deposit box accomplish that my safe doesn't?

But thieves bro.

But my safe is bolted into the floor, not to mention you need a key AND combination to get inside.

But first you have to beat the dogs.

If there is no limit between 2/3 and 5/10 I think you should be more conservative with taking shots.. at $18k I would be taking 200bb shots at 5/10 at the most and move down if drop below $15k. Its going to take a huge grind/run good to get back a standard loss (3-4k) in a 5/10 by playing 2/3.

let me know the address.. but not until its over $15k

Safety deposit boxes can be seized by the Feds or frozen if you run into trouble. Plus it's not completely unheard of for people's safety deposit boxes to be robbed by unscrupulous bank employees.

Ok, serious question even though it is a very fishy question:

I know the sample sizes are small, but like, why is there such an enormous difference here? Can I draw any conclusions? Is anything here relevant?

Total Stats at 1/2, 1/3, and 2/3: 168.75 hours, +$1.64/hr, -0.13 BB/hr

More specifically...

1/2: 36.95 hours, -$18.53/hr
1/3: 128.05 hours, +$5.46/hr

Total Stats at 2/5, 3/5, and 5/5: 212.81 hours, +$49.00/hr

LA 500 NL: 111.14 hours, +$112.23/hr
Other 500 NL: 101.67 hours, -$20.11/hr

edit: Even adding my 2013 stats... I am +1.51 BB/hr at 1/2 and 1/3 for 2013... which makes my total +0.86 bb/hr at 1/2 and 1/3 lifetime

At 2/5 lifetime (including an 18 hour sample of 2/5 in 2013), I am at $55.32/hr total

Idk... I feel like there is something to it? Maybe I just WANT to believe there is something to it? Or is the only thing to it that I ran really really well at 2/5 and ran poorly at 1/2 and 1/3 and in reality, it'll converge somewhere right in the middle long-term?

IR2M, I spoke to you in Vegas about how I felt 1/2 was like really irritating to me and at times I felt it was not even beatable. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the above although I'm pretty sure you'll say its just weird variance.

you ran hot in LA

slim, are you saying that a 22.5 bb/hr winrate is in fact NOT sustainable?

I believe that is exactly what I am saying...so yes

duke. out of curiosity, what prompted you to move up to 2/5 when you weren't beating 1/2? did you feel you were a winning player who was just running poorly? did you feel the rake was prohibitive at 1/2?

I first moved up to 1/3 from 1/2 because the 1/2 games at my home casino were sometimes pretty bad and the 1/3 game was always very good. I was beating 1/3, but not for as much as I wanted to... however, I built my roll to like $10k playing 1/3 as I continued to get better and then took a shot at the LA 5/5 games because I got coaching from a notable LA-crusher and could feel myself improving very quickly.

So basically time line goes like this:

October I started playing live poker and taking poker seriously... played 1/2, lost a lot

November I started playing 1/3 because the games were a lot better and won at like $21/hr or something for the next three months. I got aggressive with 2/5 shots during this time too and made like $2.3k+ in 18 hours. after that, I had a bit of a downswing, moved to Vegas, and continued to play a mixture of 1/3 and 2/5 and did ok in both (like 6bb/hr).

So it was a combination of getting better at poker, doing like ok-ish at 1/3, and aggressively shot taking 2/5 and running really well/playing really well at 2/5. I never moved up to 2/5 without a good reason imo.

This is a very valid question.

Also, regarding 1/2 and beating it:

1/2 is beatable. It's a fact. Or I run like god for the last 600 hours. I know a number of people who beat 1/2. At all of our local casinos.

People are just so terrible. Period. They call with such crap hands all the time OOP, IP, and check/fold so much on the flop/turn it's just laughable.
Raise, cBet, win.

Yes, the rake sucks. But the players are so bad that it's still very beatable.

yeah, fwiw im not saying its not beatable although i bet its coming off that way. i just dont know what exactly im doing so wrong at 1/2. it seems really easy, every time i play in a 1/2 game there are 6-8 fish who are either loose/passive or weak/tight. but i just never win

Also, I'm not saying that you can't beat the game.
And I'm not saying that you win rate is accurate or not accurate.

But sample size bro..
Seriously..

If you have 200 hours at a game (say 1/2 for example) and if at any time during that 200 hour stretch you gii with AA vs KK for 150bb each and you lose your 80% hand, you lose a 300bb pot. That's a 600bb swing in your winrate. So, you now move your entire win rate for your sample by 3bb hour. That's insane.

So, you talk about your 2/5 win rates, and your 1/2 or 1/3 win rates. But try to think about any big hand you played at either of these levels, the good ones and the bad ones and think about how they could be affecting your win rates. That's another reason why it's important to get a bigger sample before trying to put too much stock into your specific numbers (as opposed to your general trending).

You'll likely ignore me since we aren't "friends" but maybe you are not nearly as good as you think you are (or at least thought you were). I'm not saying this definitively I am saying this is a possibility.

Not saying you didn't have reasons to shot take and that seems fine but perhaps you aren't/weren't ready. Tighten up some leaks, put in monster hours at 1/2 and 1/3, stop spewing, ABC it up, listen to others who have significantly more experience and results to back it up, proft, rinse and repeat.

Just because you have the roll for a certain level doesn't mean you are ready to beat that level.

FPS likely bro.

You are better than a lot of them. You know that you are better than them. So, you might do fancy stuff (like 3betting with ATC which happens to be T2o I seem to recall) to get them to fold or call.

Just because we can think on level 3 and 4 doesn't mean that they even understand what level 0 is. Just remember that.

Seeking respect for his raises is obv

Probably the number 1 trait that defines "better" IMO is understanding how your player pool thinks and only playing 1 step ahead of them (or more appropriately stated adjusting to their level of play). Not 2 or 3 levels higher than they think. That's spewy FPS and is a trait of a player that really isn't "better". Yeah that player may have more theoretical poker knowledge but applies it incorrectly, in the wrong spots, etc. Not sure if that is the case with Duke though I suspect it is at least partially true.

but yeah sample sizes

Yeah, I think you're right. I try to play very ABC at 1/2 but at times, I just can't help myself. And I'll look at HHs and try to convert the numbers to BBs and ask myself if I would ever make this play at a 2/5 game. I usually wouldn't, but it just feels so easy to throw $10 in or $20 in at 1/2.

FWIW, I know I seem like a huge clown to you who is destined for busto, but I have received coaching from ATsai to tighten up my leaks, I have subscriptions to a bunch of training sites, and I talk about poker with friends on and off pretty much for hours and hours every day (like not straight through, but usually there is always someone texting me a hand or whatever). Like, idk, I looked at my stats today and realized that I really have worked hard on my game... so how the **** am I break-even at 1/2 and 1/3 but winning 11bb/hr at 2/5 since I started playing live poker?

I am sure this is the biggest culprit. But even doing dumb **** once in a while shouldn't take me from being a decent winner to being break-even? I am sure variance is playing a roll... but I really don't get into many big pots at 1/2. If I stack someone, they're usually short-stacked... otherwise I'm just getting 1 street of value a lot and they fold the turn or they fold to a flop c-bet. People at 1/2 aren't stacking off for 100bb as lightly as they seem to do at 2/5.

Only a 1,724 hour sample size, so still just starting out; no doubt I have a 5 BI downswing waiting for me around the corner. About a month ago I was stuck ~450bb in a single session before turning that particular session around for just an average biggish loss, so yeah, it'll happen.

Gbutithasn't.happened.yet.G

That's still insane over 1700 hours...but nice work. I've seen solid players lose 600+bb in a single session before, especially if the game is good and they are running bad.

I somehow managed to book a winning May despite going on a $3600 downswing during the month. I have no clue how, but the numbers don't lie.

2/3 game is the closest (25 miles) and anything bigger is 70-80 miles away. 2/3 already plays like 2/5 & the only difference is the $300 cap. I figured if I was gonna commute I might as well play 5/10. Skill levels seem the same as every other game I played.

Instead of taking another "shot" when i get to 18/20k I might try the $300-$1,000 5/5? Game @ the bike. Seems a lot "safer" for my BR.

Thanks for the input.