Always play at the place closest in driving distance. Being able to quit early and go home or go somewhere else when things aren't going well is a huge advantage. You're also not instantly down gas money and time like you would be driving a far distance. Chances are the quality of game does not outweigh the driving distance.

Perhaps I need to get out of the habit of my "either/or" thinking. So often, I feel like I must commit to one room or another in a given day.

GrindPoker, are you driving the 15 minutes 100% of the time? Then if the game sucks, drive the other 45 minutes to one of your other options? Is that what you meant?

I consider myself fairly good at math, but for some reason your subtractions of rake-per-hour are going over my head. Pardon me, but how did you come to the calculation of "minus $10/hour"?

I was just speaking in general, if the games are good at the casino 15 minutes away then that's where I'm playing. However, I like that plan if the casino is on the way to the other ones.

From talking to floor people / dealers at the casinos I frequent. They average ~$95 per hour in rake + bbj drop at a 10% $4+2bbj game. So a 5+1 would actually average slightly less; but i default to $100/hour for most basic calculations.

And at a 10 handed table, people pay an average of $10/hour in rake.

I'm assuming that he guesstimated it (or new it to be standard). If there are 25 hands dealt an hour and each hand is max raked $6 (5+1) then tables are earning $150/hr in rake Divide that by the 9 players and each player would be paying an average of $16.67. Obviously not all hands are max-raked so his number makes sense to me even though I don't understand how it was derived.

Hey guys I just stayed playing live and realized where I play the rake is max 5 and a jackpot of 2!

Is the double jack pot dropgoing to make the games unbeatable long term @ 1/2?


Zy

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Define beatable.

I would think beatable would be at least 10 an hour.

Zy

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100% beatable.

A solid player in the game should notice only a small drop in their win rate.
1/2 - 1 bb / hour at the most I'd say.

Ah OK perfect. Idk why 1$ seemed like so much to me. Probably because I play 50nl online lol.


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Promo drop shouldn't diminish winrate, assuming the money is returned to cg players in the form of high hands, bbj, splash pots etc. Some places use promo drop to cover tournament guarantees so in that case it would affect the winrates of cg players.

Some venues run better promos during certain hrs so you should be aware of that too.

Accurate.

As long as 100% is returned to players at a mostly even distribution.

That's a huge assumption. At the casino I play at they say the drop is for the BBJ but the amount that goes to the BBJ is likely 10 to 20%.

February 28 - Today
I've played 125 Freeroll tournaments on SealsWithClubs and cashed in 33 winning 75.88 chips.
1st. 4x
2nd. 4x
3rd. 3x
4th. 5x
5th. 3x
6th. 3x
7th. 7x
8th. 3x
11th. 1x

Well I guess every place is different, I am pretty sure there are regulations in NV that promo drop must be returned to the players in one fashion or another.

I've had a similar dilemma as well. I have found that if I go to the 15 minute game, it is super beneficial for booking my wins. When I drive an hour I feel like i need to stay for probably way longer than I should. I play optimally for 5 hours on most nights, when faced with an hour drive home I generally exceed that.
Another factor for me is that i know every player now at the game close to my house. I have so much info on all of them. It also makes the time much more enjoyable. I reserve the hour drive now for when I would like to play higher.

I have a similar what game should i play situation as ZY...

My background is similar. I was a full time pro prior to Black Friday. Played mostly SSNL with some success at MSNL....

Flash foward to the present and i now have 4k worth of full tilt monies to play with. Im no longer a pro ldo and havent played much these past few years but i assume I still have fundamentals to win at a good clip live.

Assuming 4k bankroll. Im a student with a 26 per hour week job that covers my expenses. Not like this money is life changing but it would be disapponting to bust it... I wont have much time to play. Probably 20 hours week max, often 4-5 hour blocks at a time...occassionally longer on some weekends...

What game(s) are you playing?

Option 1) 1/2 NL (with $2 mandatory straddle on BTN, effectively a 3 blind game) 60-200 max. 5+2 rake. 15 minute drive. Solid game selection. Plenty of tables to choose from.

Option 2) 2/5 NL, 200-500 max. 5+2 rake. 15 minute drive. 2-3 tables on average.

Option 3) 1/2 NL 60-300 max. 5+2 rake. 45 minute drive. Solid game selection. Plenty of tables to choose from

Option 4) 2/5 NL 200-500 max. 5+2 rake. 45 minute drive. Soild game selection. 4-6 tables on average.

Option 5) 2/5 NL. 300-1000 max. 5+2 rake. 45 minute drive. Usually just 1-2 tables.

Option 6)1/2 NL 100-300 max. 5+2 rake. 1 hour drive. Lots of tables. Great game selection.

Option 7) 2-5 NL 200-600 max. 5+2 rake. 1 hour drive. Good game selection. Lots of weekend action.

Preciate the input

Hey All

I play 2/5 Live at a place that has a minimum $200 maximum $500. Long story short I started playing it for part time income while earning the rest of my income in another part time job.

I am rolling with $10,000 which is 20 buy ins. Since I play live I do not have graphs but I have always done fairly well. Do you feel 20 buy ins is still the right bench mark or should I shoot for more and if so how much more? Also when you are running bad how many buy ins do you need to drop before you would move down to 1/2?

Thanks in advance.

Most of these tournaments were freerolls so the tilt factor was at a minimum. Should these stats even be considered valid? Any input is greatly appreciated.

I doubt there is anyone in this subforum that knows much about freeroll tournaments.

What are you asking? You've netted .076 BTCs, which is like $40, in x hours. Calculate your hourly and see if it's worth your time. I don't think it is, but perhaps you do.

You don't have much time so this is a no-brainer go with Option 1. If you profit in that you can either build your bankroll playing it or take aggressive shots at 2/5 (option 2). If you have a weekend free then you could do the 1 hr drive but for now I see no reason.

I used to grind freerolls when I was 13. I know a thing or two!

I'm asking considering the stats you think it would be a wise option to start playing actual $ tournaments?