Kenshi you sound like a super fishy degen by your posts. The hands you lost were terribad even for a titled amateur player. I hope you still have a job and then you will be able to continue to work on your game in the meantime with the money not meaning much.

Was looking at your PG&C thread as well. Think you should be looking to start from 5NL online. Build up a roll till you're beating 50NL comfortably then shot take at live 1/2 or 1/3.

Mine? If you read it you would see that I already beat 50NL and have beaten live 2/5 for a living for over 2 years. Over the past month I have been crushing 5/10. However you will also see that I have dealt with major mental game issues and have played pretty terribly at times. That being said even I have never played as horribly as his KK or 99 hand.

FWIW, it does appear that I have gotten over the mental game issues for the most part.

No lol kenshi3 sorry for not clarifying

LoL oops. Gonna go check out his thread.

Well I actually had the winning tilt last session cuz I won $400 from roulette in 5 mins due to some hot chick picking numbers for me. I admit I played the first $200 very poorly, cbetting into 5 ppl $20 with nothing on flop and get called by 2, then shut down and get owned by low pair in the end. Had top pair wit 10 7 on a flush board and gave away my whole stack to a Q6 hearts.

For my 2nd $200, I played very fairly well I believe, climbed back up to $250, but just that KK vs AA hand that really troubled me, but now I understand how to beat it, I can avoid it better next time. Hopefully.

I do have a part time job that gets me 1.2k per month approx. Switching to full time soon now that I'm done with school, but might find a higher paying job if they don't offer me a better position.

I don't enjoy playing online, because I simply hate having a casino at home, it really tilts me. I understand I can learn alot of hands etc, but I already burned over $600 in pokerstars. I might get back to it once I earn some more in 1/2 Live because the games are just so much more entertaining, fun and softer to play. I live like 10 mins away from the 2nd best poker room available in town. Also my family is against "gambling" in general.

I bought coaching and invested around $600 in there as well, he taught me the basics and such. I wish I could continue , but it costs $100 per session and my roll is too low to do.

Im fortunate enough to be still up in my live poker career, as I did hit a 1.3k win last week (got AK 8 times and all of them won me pots) , and dedicated to playing some solid poker live to build enough of a roll to try 2/5. And lastly I thank you all who replied to my posts, it has really helped me out. Please continue to do so. =)

Stop playing roulette

Stop playing pit games, stop raising 72o (from your pgnc thread), and stop dreaming about hitting a jackpot.

Honestly sounds like you're hiring a marathon trainer while you're still learning how to walk. Your money at the end of the day so spend it at however a steep learning curve you want to tackle. But rather than dump $100 an hour on a coach, or blow $600 playing 100NL online, maybe you should be starting with a $40 deposit, seeing if you can tackle 2NL, then 5NL when you hit $100? Get thousands and thousands of hands in, build upon your fundamentals so you're not spewing away thousands of dollars in LLSNL without any proper range analysis, reads, or otherwise. Then consider hiring a coach, playing higher stakes online, and crushing the live scene.

Bar none the most important quality for a poker player to posses IMO is patience. Some people don't have it.

Surpassed a personal milestone yesterday, booking my $50K in profit in my 1/3 NL game (ha, session was so awesome I actually surpassed the $51K mark).

As someone who has switched from live low stakes limit (putting in a lol 2000+ hours at those stakes/games), I can't believe how much much much more profitable the live low stakes NL game has turned out to be.

GthedarksidehasbeengoodtomeG

Congrats. How many hours did that take?

Thanks. About 1641 hours.

Ha, I just realize I often wear my ~winrate on my back (I often wear a hockey jersey with #31 to the poker room).

GcluelessNLnoobG

Good job gg. If you don't mind me asking what was your biggest downswing along the way? I have just started playing somewhat seriously again and am winning at a similar rate. Unfortunately I'm a bit under rolled and am curious how rough it could get.

I think I've probably run like the sun regarding downswings, so I'm probably not the one to ask.

I've never booked a 5 BI (500bb) downswing at my 1/3 NL game. I've twice come close to that (mid 400bbs, I've posted both those cases in my 1000 hours well, I believe they were short 3 and 4 session streaks). And once within an individual session I found myself over the 5 BI line thanks to a sucky previous session and a sucky current session, but I went on to turn that current session into a win, so I've never officially booked a 5 BI downswing.

So, yeah, it is what it is. My guess is that this is a combination of I Play In An Awesome Game + My Conservative Overall Style + I Am God's Older Better Looking Brother.

GfeelssorryforthosewhoonlyrunlikegodG

Jeeeeeeeeez...

Play enough hands, everyone will "run" exactly the same ... although the way we play is drastically different from one player to the next.

Not in live poker.

[(variance spread) / hours] approaches zero as hours goes to infinity but (variance spread) itself does not approach zero at all... it continues to grow to infinity itself - so actually, there is no exact result... ever

So in a "sounds impossible" way of phrasing it...

GG and I end up going to poker heaven for eternity.. (Florida?)

Infinity hands later, we both have exactly a $31/hr WR... yet GG is up trillions of dollars more than me

Infinity can hide very well inside infinity.

Live or online, if you play enough hands, we will all have the virtually same amount of (% wise):

- bad beats
- coolers
- tough villains
- go up against top of villains range
- missed draws
- card dead

... and anything else you can think of where luck or variance plays a role.

Again, the trick is to play long enough.

* my example works better with two break even players going to poker heaven (otherwise they are both up infinity..)

So substitute in APD and F40

Well, ldo, cuz I'm sitting on your left and you are consistently bluffing off your air into my nuts.

Gbumhuntingbip!G

How big of a whale am I for playing in a 300 max, 2/2/3 autodrop of 4$ game? Anybody want to weigh in and tell me how much of a moron I am? Thanks.

@ UCDLaCrosse: To be fair, it kind of depends on how bad every one is. Could be beatable if you play tightish and don't tilt much and players are bad. But autodrop kinda seems like it would suck.