2-5 NL runs infrequently, normally Fri/Sat when I can't play. That added to the frequent pillaging of my roll for real life issues means I'm kinda stuck at 1-2. I'm looking to make a concerted effort to address both of these issues though.

Is this rivercree?

Yellowhead.

During your two session $1415 downswing was that strictly negative variance or combination of some bad play as well? tks

It was two years ago and I seem to have blocked it out of my memory, but I seem to remember it was a combination of playing in a couple of super juicy games with some maniacal action, not making hands and making some poor choices due to the frustration of losing in these amazing games.

Everyone is going to hit downswings. I've been lucky enough to not hit an extended one in live poker yet, though when you're only playing 2 nights a week any downswing seems interminable. A lot of us can play this game very well most of the time, the true test of a poker player is how close to his A game he plays when he's facing adversity, and to a lesser extent when he's running hot. There's no quicker way to exacerbate a downswing than to play badly on top of getting some bad luck!

Most 1/2 games in my area have a max buy in of $40.

I disagree with your disagree. The recommendations in question are good ones when beginning a session. Games and situations vary over time, venue, and player profiles. You do find a lot of rec players who do play like that: look for any excuse to justify a call (they came to play, remember, and you're not playing if you're folding) 3! when they have the nutz or close to it, no understanding of position, can't recognize an iso raise for what it is, and you'll get called.

See how the game plays, then add in your strategic adjustments to take advantage of those who always run nut scared, the nits that can be bluffed off hands because they will never call with less than two-pair, those who telegraph their holdings by bet size tells.

Don't ever assume that all your opponents are always bad players. That could be a major mistake if you underestimate your vill, but, for the most part, your vills aren't very sophisticated players. They're there mainly for the entertainment value, don't expect to win, but are grateful if they luck box it. Identify the occasional dangerous players, nit it up and let the rec players play. That's what they came for, and you'll get the chips if you nit it up until you have a good reason to believe otherwise.

Seriously? The only way this would make sense is if these are $1.00 -- $2.00 limit games with a single $0.50 BB. For any 1/2 NLHE, that should be a minimum buy, not the max.

That's the problem with playing in LA.

I'm sorry, I guess I just have the honor in playing in super soft uncapped 1/2 and 2/5 games. I don't know what "real" poker is apparently.

The 1/2 games here have a min buy in of 80

I have a logged sample of 1000 hours. I would say 75-80% of the time spent playing is NLHE, and 20-25% is PLO high only. I play 115 hours per month.

Of those 1000 hours, I'd say 10% of them are in a casino setting, and 90% are at home games. The home game rake is 15 dollar max. (I know, crazy...I live in Georgia) The blinds are 1-3. but I would say it plays more like a 2-5 (or sometimes bigger) based on the frequent straddles and money on the table.

My observed hourly is $41/hour over the 1000 hours.

Within those 1k hours I had a 300 hour block where my hourly was -$3.72 =).

I have android so I don't use poker journal. I use Poker Manager.

You easily need to have enough money liquid be able to go three months without making a dime and still pay bills and whatnot. I think my biggest downswing is like 12 buy ins, and I did that twice in my observed sample. (one buy in =500)

Bankroll requirements vary based on a combination of:

A) monthly nut

B) risk tolerance

C) borrowing power


Depending on these factors, your roll could be anywhere from $500-100,000 and be "appropriate"

Assuming you are a normal dude and pay like 500 a month in rent and maybe a 150 dollar car payment, and maybe some other stuff here and there...I'd say 15-20k is comfy.

Finally finished uploading all of my sessions into pokerjournal. These are my results since I started playing in April.

After a 2 year break from poker following BF, I decided to finally try playing in casinos instead of online. I started with a $1-2-2//$5 drop ($1 if no flop) game. The minimum open was $4, with the buyin capped at $200. The stacks were very shallow, the rake was high, and my results were bad from a combination of runbad and having to adjust to live. But really, it was mostly absolutely insane runbad.



After spending April playing this game, I decided to check out the $1-2-3 game at a nearby casino. Oh my god were the games/structure better. A lot of the winnings actually came not from value betting, but using my tight image to 2 barrel a ton after cbetting. Most people peel the flop very light and then give turn bets a ton of respect...(If you haven't been in many hands, that is)

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Bout a week ago I passed the $10k BR mark and moved up to $2/3/5. Only have ~37 hours logged in so far but the games seem pretty good.

Overall results,



145 hours at $1-2-2
363.5 hours at $1-2-3
34.75 hours at $2-3-5


This is for San Jose, Bay Area, California.

Hi everyone. i've always been an online player, started off with 18 yrs old (20 now) and i had played like 20 hours of live poker until these past few days where i played quite a few days in a row, which brought up a few doubts for me.

talking about live poker in ssfr the other day someone pointed out something that i hadnt realized. if you're making something like $100/hr playing 5/10 (10bbs/hr, from what i understand thats pretty doable right?) you're more than often gonna be flipping for pots that are your whole $EV for a week's work, assuming you grind between 30 and 40 hours a week. Is the variance of live poker much bigger than online pokers? can a winning player actually have a +1year downswing playing tables with 2-3 fishes and 5 semi-regs/fishes that dont have a ****ing clue?

am i right to think a std winrate for a winning online player should be between 10-15bbs/hr? during my live poker grind these past few days i talked quite a bit with some dude that was nice enough to tell me his winrate, he was making $20/hr playing 2/5 which really surprised me because even thou he probably would have been a fish on a 2/4 game online and likely wouldnt beat .25/.50 online, he was pretty decent compared to the rest of the semi regs

anyway would apreciate any comments on this, ty.

i've played a bit over 2k hrs of live poker since I was 20 (I'm almost 24 now). With about half of that being 5/10-10/20.

My advice would be to go to school/keep day job. IMO, do something else AND poker ... don't just do poker.


to answer your question though, yeah variance happens. Also, what do you mean flipping for your weeks EV... if, and thats IF, you avg 100/hr (which you won't) then the "EV" for a 40hr work week is 4k. How often are you flipping for an 8k pot in an average 5/10 game? really.

There's a dedicated thread for Qs such as yours. I'd move this there, but I'm on my phone.

APD edit: I moved it. I think we worked on this at the same time.

thx for moving it, sorry for not seeing this

@masaraksh: you dont have to be flipping for a 8k pot, you have to be flipping for a 4k pot to be flipping for your entire weeks expectation, wont happen that often either but it's not that wierd

remind me to move where you're at.

$500/mo rent and $150 car payment are very reasonable.

two-bedroom apartments where i live are about $900/month. so that's $450 with a roommate. my car is under $200 with a high interest rate. it's 10 years old.

Must be nice. I pay 950$ a month for a room in a **** hole. Can't wait to move.

Hey guys,

first time posting in LLSN. I played a lot online until a few years ago, from then on just the casual tourney from time to time. Never played live a lot, maybe 30h combined through various casinos, mostly while traveling. The closest casino to me offers 2/2 and 2/4 and I'd like to give live poker a shot. Starting roll would be €2,500 for 2/2, which is completely separated from live roll. 2/2 max buyin in 400, min is 100. I plan on buying in for 250 and see how it goes from there. How do you guys think 2/2 plays compared to 1/2 and/or do you have any other tips? Assuming I'm a winning player


-Astra

thats pretty high... i would think you could get your own **** hole for 950 s month without having to share.

bump, any kind of advice would be appreciated (:

Hey think I asked this question earlier in thread but wasn't specific enough....if I win a pot and tip 1$ in the poker journal app I would press "tokes+1" or "tokes-1"?

Also I'm stupid.

+1 means exactly what it does, plus one.