If I could win $30/hr regularly, it would be a dream. That's over 50k/yr. I am a frugal person with little need for extravagant purchases, and I don't let big wins con me into buying stuff.

I currently save every penny I can.

My ex girlfriend called me daddy and I didn't give her mom any of my br

Just saying

Hey Daddy, can I have some money?

I disagree with all of this. I still see huge fundamental leaks at 5/10 from regs and 2/5 still sees pretty bad play overall IMO.

I guess I could see your point if you don't game select very well, play in reg infested games, etc. but I think with proper planning, etc. the games are still super soft up to and including most 5/10 games.

May be different in LA/LV but with so many states opening new table games there are so many soft games out there.

In addition to this, people thought the online games were getting too tough to remain beatable every year since 2008, but fortunately, poker is a zero sum game and will always remain that way. As long as you continue to improve and stay ahead of the learning curve, you will continue to win money. Sure the golden days of people stacking off 300bbs deep with TPGK may be over, but there is still plenty of money to be made.

I play 2-5 - 5-10, and my winrate is around 12BBs/hour in both games, and I don't see that changing anytime soon. I will stay one step ahead of the regs and abuse them as well as the fish. Poker isn't dying anytime soon.

Poker is only a zero sum game without rake. As it stands, it is theoretically possible for you to do everything you mentioned and not beat the game.

Lots of circa 2011 massive multitabling rakeback grinders were guys who had pretty sick winrates on Party Poker.

Those were the same guys who let their games stagnate while adding more tables.

Or the same guys who added more tables to compensate for the games getting worse. Many of them had already reached their potential.

boom!

Winning streak officially over. Three losing sessions in a row: -29, -50, -149. Total of 13 hours among them. It's still been a fantastic month so far, and I have two more days.

How much are u up for the month?

1747 over 65.5 hours, 26/hr avg for the month. This is at 1/2 and 0/3.

I was only a little better than break even over 126 hours from Jan-Mar.

Moving away from LLSNL and playing mostly 5/10 NLHE and PLO. Everyone's solid obv...



This is from approx 1/1/12 when I got back into playing somewhat seriously post BF (mostly 2/5). Games are still quite beatable IMO. People that say that they aren't probably just can't beat the games (I readily admit that this sample size is LOL meaningless).

I wouldn't say that, anything over 500 hours is a decent chunk IMO.

Jesus, how is your std dev/hour $288.85? Mine is $360/hr and I'm a total nit.

Nice stats there !
My std dev is 388$/h over a 130h sample with about the same wr.

See Avg Buyin: 409.32

No wonder your variance is so low

If true, this is very depressing. I'm making 50/hour over 258 hours at 2/5 this year. Admittedly sample size is lol, but how sure are you of this? I respect your opinion in these forums, but for it to be max winrate seems entirely pessimistic first hand

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Yeah there was a bit more 1/2 and 1/3 in there than I realized thus lower avg BI

Just finished up April up $3,072 at 1/2, but mostly 1/3 for $43.15 an hour over 71.11 hours. Standard deviation of $203.32 hr. I finished up last night with a small win, but would have finished better if I didn't record my biggest losing session this past Sunday where I bled money away playing too many speculative hands along with getting pretty unlucky. Lesson learned.

Where are you playing? Vegas?

that's a nice win for 1/2&1/3 and good amount of hours put in.

I don't understand the 2nd part of your sentence. Why would you *not* log losing sessions? Everyone would be a winner if not logging losing session but it's important to do.

I went to play in Europe a few weeks back and tables were super soft and I logged my 3 biggest losing sessions on 3 consecutive days and they are getting absolutely logged.

The elite few 2/5 NL pros who would be able to make more than $50+/hour in late 2014 would rather do the following:

1. Play bigger stakes.

2. Retire or semi-retire from poker to something more lucrative.

So, among the remaining 2/5 NL pros who are still committed to the grind, I doubt more than 10% will be able to win more than $40/hour by the end of 2014.

not sure what your plans are but your current model is not sustainable. What do you do if you hit a downswing, get coolered or play bad and you have nothing to hand over?

This is just part of the problem outside the "handing over money" thing.

I have a close friend, his wife railed him at 2/4HU online a few years back, he was making good money on the side, only played when all the other duties were chalked off. His wife was at one time working at casino as well so no stranger to poker. 2y down the line, he found himself in court being portrayed as a degenerate gambler who would neglect his kids and gambling away food money, risking losing custody of kids.

bottom line is: if you live with someone who doesn't understand it, you really only have 3 options: not involve them in what you do, quit poker forever and never look back or gtfo. GL

He means if he hadn't lost money it would have been better, not that he doesn't keep track of losses.