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View Poll Results: What is your Win Rate in terms of BB per Housr
Less than 0 (losing)
5 6.41%
0-2.5
0 0%
2.5-5
6 7.69%
5-7.5
8 10.26%
7.5-10
15 19.23%
10+
26 33.33%
Not enough sample size/I don't know
18 23.08%

03-12-2013 , 12:29 AM
Are you just playing for fun and bringing $3k with you or is this a serious bankroll? If it's a serious bankroll then 2/5 is out of the question and I would just say play 1/2 and buy in for $200. If you are playing for any longer than 2 days then I would say 2/5 should be out of the question regardless if you are just playing for fun and just play 1/3.
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03-12-2013 , 12:29 AM
The min.
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03-12-2013 , 12:45 AM
Basically it's what my wife allows for my Vegas trips.... HAHAH. 5 day trip. I think I am leaning more towards 1-3 for 300. I go pretty much every year sometimes twice a year. Last year I played alot of 1-3 500 max at Caesars, but bought for 300. Played some 2/5 also though. Made about 2k but probably just ran super hot.
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03-12-2013 , 12:49 AM
Play 1/3 $300. If you do well then you can play some 2/5 but $3k can go real fast at 2/5. At 1/3 you should be good.
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03-12-2013 , 12:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Tom Dwans Son
Play 1/3 $300. If you do well then you can play some 2/5 but $3k can go real fast at 2/5. At 1/3 you should be good.
Thoughts on the $500 max 1-3 but BI for $300? Or always do max. There will be an auto dealers convention at Caesars my dates and the last time I was there there was an insurance convention and there was tons of drunk terrible players. Factor in at all?
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03-12-2013 , 01:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RC3
Thoughts on the $500 max 1-3 but BI for $300? Or always do max. There will be an auto dealers convention at Caesars my dates and the last time I was there there was an insurance convention and there was tons of drunk terrible players. Factor in at all?
If you are comfortable playing 100bbs then I would buy in for that amount. If you are good at playing deeper and play reasonably tight then buying in for $500 at 1/3 should be ok if the table looks good.
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03-12-2013 , 01:14 AM
i am in the midst of a horrible, horrible downswing (basically since christmas), yet i am still +$2800 since sept. 1 at $1/$2. probably down almost $2K this year.
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03-12-2013 , 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by RC3
What is the best game for bankroll management with a 3k roll with only these options?

1-2 NL 300 max
1-3 NL 300 max
1-3 NL 500 max
2-5 NL 500 max

Most people in this forum say if you feel you are one of the best players at the table (which I feel I am, when table shopping haha), then always buy in for max. I will be heading to Vegas soon and these are the options it looks like are available. Thanks for input.
1-2 300 max AINEC
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03-12-2013 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IbelieveinChipKelly
i am in the midst of a horrible, horrible downswing (basically since christmas), yet i am still +$2800 since sept. 1 at $1/$2. probably down almost $2K this year.
**** i'm happy when I'm not -2k on a session
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03-12-2013 , 11:30 AM
I'm happy when I haven't spewed off $2k in an hour.
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03-12-2013 , 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
1-2 300 max AINEC
Reasoning? More specifically, do you think it's that huge of a difference than 1-3 300 max?

I get the 2-5 is not even close, but the difference between 1-2 and 1-3 both 300 max seems really small.
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03-12-2013 , 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RC3
Reasoning? More specifically, do you think it's that huge of a difference than 1-3 300 max?

I get the 2-5 is not even close, but the difference between 1-2 and 1-3 both 300 max seems really small.
I can't believe you people are actually suggesting playing anything above 1/2... its suicide.

There is a big difference between 1/2 and 1/3, especially if u only have a 3k roll.

The 1/2 games at my casino are small. The 1/3 plays more like a 2/5.

You need a minimum of $4k bankroll to play 1/2 you only have $3k...

My advice would be to not play until you build your roll a little higher, or buy-in for $200 at the 1/2 game and play a little tighter.
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03-12-2013 , 01:43 PM
I think this goes back to your definition on bankroll. Since you are a recreational player who doesn't depend on the money for RL expenses and doesn't grind every day or even every week, I think you should play 2/5 and gamble. Also assuming that the 3K isn't so significant to your everyday life.
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03-12-2013 , 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by RC3
Reasoning? More specifically, do you think it's that huge of a difference than 1-3 300 max?

I get the 2-5 is not even close, but the difference between 1-2 and 1-3 both 300 max seems really small.
It might seem like that, but there's usually more difference than you'd expect.
Think of it this way, if there's a pot sized bet on every street, each dollar that goes in pre flop becomes $27 at the river. So when many pots start multiway, your end of hand pot sizes can easily get $50-$75 bigger than a $1/2 game.
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03-12-2013 , 01:45 PM
This is more of a trip roll than a bankroll which is why I recommended the 1/3. The 1/3 does play more like 2/5 but I think it's unlikely that he blows his entire 3k roll in 5 days playing 1/3.
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03-12-2013 , 01:48 PM
if you are taking 3k with you to have fun with, **** it and play the 2/5 game at the B
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03-12-2013 , 01:49 PM
Lurker here:

People tend to laugh at me when I say 1/2 is significantly different than 1/3. Playing 1/2 is almost tilting for me. Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons why I avoid playing at Venetian and MGM when visiting Vegas.

ETA: I do not understand why V and MGM would even run 1/2 instead of 1/3 when it is obviously a smaller game that would attract on average players with less money to gamble.
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03-12-2013 , 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by serio562
Lurker here:

People tend to laugh at me when I say 1/2 is significantly different than 1/3. Playing 1/2 is almost tilting for me. Unfortunately, this is one of the reasons why I avoid playing at Venetian and MGM when visiting Vegas.

ETA: I do not understand why V and MGM would even run 1/2 instead of 1/3 when it is obviously a smaller game that would attract on average players with less money to gamble.
Because there is a big market for $1/2 games. Many players HAVE less money to gamble, so by offering the games at that level they get a piece of the action from those players.
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03-12-2013 , 02:02 PM
I would much rather play 150bb 1/2 than 100bb 1/3.
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03-12-2013 , 02:12 PM
I'd much rather play 1/3 500 max at caesars or the wynn than a 1/2 300 max game

tbh I think the 1/3 500 game at caesars is the best sub 2/5 game in vegas
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03-12-2013 , 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 11t
I'd much rather play 1/3 500 max at caesars or the wynn than a 1/2 300 max game

tbh I think the 1/3 500 game at caesars is the best sub 2/5 game in vegas
Agreed, but Wynn is $4 rake and Caesars is $6 so I'd go with Wynn for playing 150bb+ 1/3. Only makes a difference if other players are buying in for $300+ though....if everyone is buying in for $100-200 I'd rather play 1/2. I've played some pretty fun deepstacked games at the Wynn with $10k+ on the table of a 1/3 game.
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03-12-2013 , 02:26 PM
I think the quality of the players at caesars <<< the wynn where you have some fairly decent players grinding that 1/3 game. I mean not legit "good" but lets say players of your caliber playing in it

SUBLTE NEEDLE!

I like the wynn a lot more than caesars, like root to branch, and I'd play there on the weekends and caesars on like tuesday/thursday since I don't think you get many grinders there.
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03-12-2013 , 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Angrist
Because there is a big market for $1/2 games. Many players HAVE less money to gamble, so by offering the games at that level they get a piece of the action from those players.
It makes sense to get a piece of the action than not all. On the other hand, premium casinos want to attract gamblers who are not only going to play poker but also degen at the pits. I would assume subpar casinos would run 1/2.




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I would much rather play 150bb 1/2 than 100bb 1/3.
So you would rather play $300 at 1/2 than $300 at 1/3? So this means $450 at 1/3 than $500 at 2/5?

I am going to disagree. I would rather play 100bb at 1/3.
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03-12-2013 , 03:06 PM
Thanks for the responses, but to clarify for a few coming in late... I am not worried about the money at all, except for the fact that if I lose all 3k before the 5 days is up the rest of the trip is gonna blow dick. I am just a rec player for sure other than how I study the game (why I got on here). I just play a 1/2 home game once a week that is beyond free money, but this is my TR (trip roll) aka WR (wife roll). HAHA. Lame, but it is what it is. More worried about RoR over 5 days than any other factors.

Every trip I have taken before last summer was always a lets get hammered and throw dice and get crushed on craps type of trip, but I realized grinding and making money (**** breaking even for that matter) is actually more fun then blowing through it on house games.
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03-12-2013 , 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by serio562
It makes sense to get a piece of the action than not all. On the other hand, premium casinos want to attract gamblers who are not only going to play poker but also degen at the pits. I would assume subpar casinos would run 1/2.

So you would rather play $300 at 1/2 than $300 at 1/3? So this means $450 at 1/3 than $500 at 2/5?

I am going to disagree. I would rather play 100bb at 1/3.
Why would you assume subpar casinos run 1/2 instead of 1/3? I prefer 150bb because players are bad and make more mistakes when they are deeper stacked.
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