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Originally Posted by 2OutsNoProb
This is just in the last couple of pages. (I'm not saying any of the specific people above are fudging, just making a point).
On top of that, we're not just talking about this particular thread, it's all over this site - in other threads in Live Stakes, or in B+M, or Home Poker, etc.
fair enough. i wasn't bashing, just commenting.
also, as far as the seemingly high winrates, it's been my experience that they are possible but usually indicative of short sessions and/or small sample size.
a lot of times if i see someone with a 10bb+/hour rate, it will be with an average session of < 4 or 5 hours. when u play short sessions like that, you're almost never losing multiple buy ins, and when you double up you're win rate is huge. lets say you're at 1/2 and in a 4 hour session you double up your 300 and leave. that's 37.5bb/hr, which is huge. now lets say you stayed another 4 hours and won an additional $100, it's already dropped to 25bb/hr. If you stayed that extra time and actually lost $100 back, it's dropped to 12bb/hr.
thus a 10bb/hr winrate with an average session of 4 hours is NOT the same as a 10bb/hr rate with an average session of 8 hours. it means much much less as far as showing the skill of the player. and i don't say that to bash anyone that's posted a winrate like that, you very well may be able to sustain it for longer sessions, but that's just how it is.
as for what's sustainable and what isn't, it's going to change drastically with game structure and quality. from what i've seen in a 2/5 game with a 100bb buy in, i think 10bb/hr is approaching the best in the player pool IF you're average session is over 6 or 7 hours.