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Originally Posted by YanasaurBBQ
I find myself folding the best hand more often than I should in live poker or otherwise taking a too passive line. I'm not getting bluffed, actually picking off bluffs is one of the things im doing very well, but im often running into villains that are way overvaluing middle strength to good hands and betting like they have the nuts so I end up folding.
A lot of times im finding if I would just say screw it, i have no idea whats going on here and jam, I'd end up with all the money. I cant count the number of times since i started putting in decent time in live play for about 3 mos now that ive folded the best hand and watched 2 villains both get it in with nonsense and see 3rd or 4th pair scoop a $700 pot. Im winning, and I'm winning at a decent clip, but I should be up a lot more.
If its not folding the best hand, its also not putting in a raise to protect my equity when someone is showing a lot of strength unexpectedly and my danger radar goes off.
Im playing really well against the regs and I'm finding them very easy exploit and doing well against passive fish, but the more aggressive fish that are making these kinds of plays are costing me a lot of money. I guess I need to be more willing to just go with a decent hand against them. Their range is so wide and i give them too much credit when they start blasting off with what ends up being weird merged stuff.
Anybody else struggle with this? What other leaks are we all working to fix?
Curious how you know you're folding the best hand. Are these multi-way pots that get to showdown after you fold? Are opponents showing you bluffs, or worse hands for value?
If they're multi-way pots, you should be folding more when there's a bet and call or especially a raise (yes, even in the republic of Texas).
I seem to have the opposite problem - it's really hard for me to find folds on the river when I start off with a very strong hand. Like you, I seem to do well enough against regs, but I can't believe some of the hands I see fish roll over.
Like, I'll raise pre, flop Broadway, and they'll call flop c-bets and turn barrels for 2/3 pot, to chase a flush with 42s, then donk-bet for 1/4 pot on the river when they get there, instead of check-calling, when I would have bet at least 2/3 pot. They never bet their draws as a semi-bluff when action checks to them, but they'll call any size bet to see the river with any flush draw.
I also seem incapable of resisting the urge to make thin value bets when the draws come in. The only thing keeping my bankroll from getting decimated is how infrequently the fish raise my river bets when they have the nuts. It's unbelievable - they'll chase the nut flush draw, and get there, and then just flat call when I bet 40% pot on the river after flopping top 2 or a set.
I'll shake my head, and they'll be like, "what? I was four to the nut flush on the turn," not realizing I'm shaking my head not because they chased their draw, but because they didn't raise. If you ask them why they didn't raise after making the hand they were chasing, they can't form a coherent answer.