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What's the worst you call with? 400NL What's the worst you call with? 400NL

10-18-2008 , 09:41 PM
Donkbettor is fumbo and has a set here like 99% of the time. Caller is jcamby33 who opens wide and makes spewy plays at times. I'm a 14/10 TAG. Consider I flat KK and AA here sometimes. Every hand in your raising range also call the allins? Play 33, AcAx, and KcQc differently?

Poker Stars $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players
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MP1: $734.60
MP2: $406.00
CO: $423.80
Hero (BTN): $579.90
SB: $376.50
BB: $389.00
UTG: $400.00
UTG+1: $496.60
UTG+2: $827.00

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with
3 folds, MP1 raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero calls $12, 1 fold, BB calls $8

Flop: ($38.00) 3 4 5 (3 players)
BB bets $20, MP1 calls $20, Hero raises to $88, BB raises to $377 all in, MP1 raises to $722.60 all in, Hero calls $479.90 all in
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10-19-2008 , 01:12 AM
Worst - set of 3s
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10-19-2008 , 10:20 AM
i think against anyone reasonably agro on flop we should be folding some dominated combo draws,simple draws ofc but not sets if that make any sense
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10-19-2008 , 10:25 AM
Yeah, every hands I raise for value I will snap call.

Worst hand : probably Acx. But I will fold 333, because we beat nothing.

So : Acx, 444+
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10-19-2008 , 02:13 PM
totally agree ^^^^^^^^^^^^
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10-19-2008 , 02:15 PM
ând well.... I fold the 6c7x aswell.....
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10-19-2008 , 06:29 PM
Unless I am a complete ******, which has been the case, I can only see the BB having a set trying to protect or more likely the straight with the 6c. As for the flat call from MP1, given the board, I can't see him smooth calling behind and then shoving over the BB raise w/o the AcXc.

Basically, you're drawing against the nut flush. Set of 4's is about the only hand I would consider calling with since we don't know if BB has a set or the str8. Even calling with the 6c has us drawing to 2 outs. I don't even like calling with AcXx because if we hit our flush on the turn BB or MP1 has redraw against us or worse yet, the board pairs on the turn leaving us drawing dead! Very -EV IMO.

At best you're drawing to 10 outs or as little as 2. Heads up I think it's a no brainer but multiway, I can find a fold even for a set of 4's in this spot. Wouldn't want to but think "MAY" be the correct play.
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10-20-2008 , 11:25 AM
i would fold bottom set, middle set, straights, and maybe low flushes.

you say you can have kk+ but if fumbo has set+ "99%" of the time then why would you make it 88 with those hands
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10-20-2008 , 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Renton
i would fold bottom set, middle set, straights, and maybe low flushes.

you say you can have kk+ but if fumbo has set+ "99%" of the time then why would you make it 88 with those hands
You're right, I'm not saying I would raise the flop with AA and KK but they are in my preflop range. For the record, I had 10c9c and actually tanked before caling. I wouldn't fold 44 though
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