before betting I sometimes ask myself what I will do if my bet gets raised. If the answer is 'fold' then usually I check instead of betting out.

Since it's extremely unlikely you have JJ, 22, or J2, I think I'd just check-back on this flop, and look to play this hand a little more defensively. As played, it's probably correct to fold.

The thing about players who play loose and passive, especially older players, is that they expect more aggro opponents to do their betting for them. Don't. Instead, force them to bet their hand by checking to them or checking back. Sometimes they'll size up and put us to a tough decision, but more often, they'll size down, desperate to get value after folding so many hands, and we can continue.

Because you have KK, it's more likely V has AA, and it makes sense he'd x/r in this spot, on a two-tone board. This type of opponent seems to live in perpetual fear of having AA cracked by obvious draws. They love to x/r these types of boards when a more aggro opponent c-bets. A big x/r is almost certainly thick value.

When the flop checks through, and V bets turn small on a brick, we can call. If V checks again on turn, we can make a delayed c-bet, often very wide, and on almost any card that isn't likely to improve V's hand.

It sucks to have to play a big hand defensively, but we have to have the discipline to not pay off the nits and fish.

So you never, like, block-bet the river to eke out thin value with TPWK?

Sometimes, having a plan to fold without hesitation when one gets raised is enough to give one the confidence to bet more often, and thus win more.

So...he's terrible.

His logic makes no sense. If he was convinced you were just bluffing with AK, why not flat call your bet, and let you continue barreling, rather than x/r and scare you away? What would he have done if you 3B over his x/r? Is he jamming TT?

Even if you knew how this guy played, I think I still like the fold on the flop. Logically, if he's passive with his draws, he's not x/r'ing flop with spades, and he's probably not raising with 2x. I wouldn't have thought he'd be raising EP with a lot of Jx combos, but if he is, then there's really not a lot KK can beat when he x/r's this flop.

We don't want to get into the habit of check-calling or check-folding every time this V raises. A guy that gets overly aggro with WA/WB hands is probably going to be just as aggro with his thick value hands. We need to be opportunistic with V's like this, and wait for the right opportunity to stack them. It's okay to over-fold while waiting for our spot.

It's unlikely we're going to be in a lot of spots like this - an EP open-3B-call from V, followed by a two-tone and paired flop. It's okay to take a more defensive, lower EV line or make the occasional bad fold when we can print against this V in most other spots.

I haven't seen the other answers, but by my math, the pot is 180 and your bet size is 22% of the pot. It's too small IMO and it may have induced a bluff or an overplay from villain. Call and reevaluate.

If your read is correct and villain is only betting aggressively with value, you can fold turn most times and a triple barrel river bet 100% of the time.

SPR is 4.4. What does Miller say you do with an SPR of 4? (not that it necessarily applies here, but SPR is your thing!)

I think this is a problematic spot in a 3bet pot because (a) we offered non-horrendous ~14:1 IO preflop (not great, but not terrible either), (b) possibly somewhat tabled our hand (admittedly depends on how much we've been 3betting) and (c) created an SPR of ~4 where it will be trivial for our opponent to force us to play for our stack postflop. Personally, I find these spots quite difficult and attempt to avoid them (mostly by playing shorter and/or possibly even tricky flatting preflop).

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Can you explain what you mean by take out the spr and some of the math and exploit your opponents more? Or an example? Thanks