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What would you have done with the ace of clubs here? What would you have done with the ace of clubs here?

07-04-2023 , 02:51 AM
$2/$5 NLHE at Crown Melbourne

Eight players at the table.

Tough LAG player in EP with a $2000 stack. He absolutely loves his suited connectors. Every time someone's jammed into him so far, he's managed to call off their bets, and every time he's either got the goods, or he's got a tonne of equity.

Tough TAG player on the BTN with a $1200 stack. He likes raising and/or squeezing with premiums and with mid-to-high pocket pairs (88+). Not sure whether he flats or folds his lower pockets.

I'm BB with a $1300 stack. The whole table has seen me buy-in for $1000, lose $500 in an all-in with QQ versus AK, then play my way back by making some big river bluffs against some of the tighter players at the table. To stave off boredom, I've been flipping over big river bluffs all night, and at this point I have a bit of a reputation as an absolute nit preflop who plays fairly bluffy poker from there onwards.

(Pot: $7)

A couple of players limp.
LAG player in EP raises to $30.
TAG player on the BTN calls.
I'm in the BB and I look down at a pair of black bullets (AcAs).
I raise to $100, EP calls, BTN calls.

(Pot: $312)

Flop comes 3c-6d-Tc.
I lead out for $150.
Loose EP player calls.
BTN folds.

(Pot: $612)

Turn is the Kc, filling the club draw.
I check.
LAG fires out $300.
I contemplate all my options:
  1. I can call, however there's only a 16% chance that I'll hit my draw, meaning there's roughly an 84% chance that I end up in a tough spot on the river.
  2. I can jam and try to generate some fold equity with my Ac blocker. Unfortunately, everyone whose jammed into this guy in the last 6 hours has been called. Additionally, since he's a suited connector guy, my Ac blocker doesn't really stop him from having a flush, and I'm sure he snap-calls with any flush at all, because he's just that kind of player. Furthermore, this guys know I'm very tight preflop, and probably realizes that the Kc prevents me from repping AcKc, which is my main value hand in this spot, thereby reducing my fold equity even further.
  3. I can fold.
What would you do in this spot, and why?
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07-04-2023 , 03:33 AM
If your description is correct, we have no fold equity on hands that beat us. Unless he's folding TT or 66. But probably not. So, jamming solves nothing.

Can't fold. Hand is too strong.


Just have to call, and evaluate river. Also, don't check this turn.
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07-04-2023 , 03:43 AM
Calling and seeing what the river brings. I agree with the post above - we have a good, non-nutted hand that can call this 1/2 psb and evaluate the river.

Jamming causes villain to fold worse and call with better.

Let’s see a river.


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07-04-2023 , 03:55 AM
You don't have any fold equity because you had to entertain yourself by showing your bluffs. Can't fold on the turn because a LAG made a 1/2 PSB at you after you checked. People consider me a nit and I would have fired a 1/2 PSB on the turn as played.
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07-04-2023 , 03:58 AM
Was going to ask if you were showing your bluffs.....as that's only way for them to know. Stop showing cards.
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07-04-2023 , 04:29 PM
Probably call as you can still have the best hand or have tons of equity.

Preflop sizing is a big mistake. You should be going at least 4x plus the dead money from the cold caller and limpers. At least $150 plus the money from the limpers.

This encourages it to go heads up or even just take it down pre. You should also have hands like A5s and AQo and you should should be happy to take it down pre in those situations. You're still should be getting a ton of action with your preflop but charging/ pushing out more implied odds hands like suited connectors and low/mid PPs.

Flop size is big for multiway. Wouldn't mind check or 25% pot on flop.
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07-04-2023 , 10:10 PM
Should be 3-betting way higher oop, as Mlark said, $150 is a good starting point, personally I'd go $170.

I prefer a smaller bet on the flop, probably 1/3rd pot, and continue for 1/3 - 1/2 on turn. As played, we can't fold a hand this strong, call turn and evaluate river.
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