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What are some obvious leaks you see frequently at 2/5 NLHE? What are some obvious leaks you see frequently at 2/5 NLHE?

10-30-2018 , 12:47 PM
Im curious what are some obvious leaks that you guys seem to come across frequently in 2/5?
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10-30-2018 , 12:57 PM
Most amateur/reg/rec players don't 3-bet preflop nearly enough. I feel like, at my casino, that has changed over the past 1-2 years, and there is a bit more 3betting pre, but it's still pretty rare to see people 3betting light.
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10-30-2018 , 01:23 PM
players who 3bet too often and have no clue about sizings and have weak post flop skills
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10-30-2018 , 01:30 PM
Slots and blackjack...
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10-30-2018 , 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by johnnyfry2
Slots and blackjack...
Thats funny. Back in the day when I used to play 2/5 I had this mentality where if I ever got down to like 100-150 range I would just usually go play blackjack instead haha
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10-30-2018 , 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KT_Purple
players who 3bet too often and have no clue about sizings and have weak post flop skills
How do you feel about the better players who are more aggressive in nature, who always straddle the button and make it a huge raise?
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10-30-2018 , 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by wes c. addle
Most amateur/reg/rec players don't 3-bet preflop nearly enough. I feel like, at my casino, that has changed over the past 1-2 years, and there is a bit more 3betting pre, but it's still pretty rare to see people 3betting light.
So this is interesting. When people decide to 3-bet light, do you find they do this after building a more solid image? or are they just coming in swinging? Because I do tend to try to 3 bet certain hands a little lite, for example KJos, or KQos, maybe hands like 9's 10's and J's as well and of course the standard 3bet hands. I struggle sometimes because if I open too many hands it just ruins my image and I usually lose credibility in spots where I dont actually want a call. I guess maybe I need to balance my range better
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10-30-2018 , 06:31 PM
Leaks I see at 2/5 live.

Limpers of course.
General bad post flop players including TAGs.
And TAGs who have some semi clue... raise pre-flop too low.

Fishes are getting better thou.
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10-30-2018 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Potwinner
So this is interesting. When people decide to 3-bet light, do you find they do this after building a more solid image? or are they just coming in swinging? Because I do tend to try to 3 bet certain hands a little lite, for example KJos, or KQos, maybe hands like 9's 10's and J's as well and of course the standard 3bet hands. I struggle sometimes because if I open too many hands it just ruins my image and I usually lose credibility in spots where I dont actually want a call. I guess maybe I need to balance my range better
At 2/5 live... I would not 3 bet with KJos etc.

Generally in 2/5 live, if someone raises pre you are behind at best holding KJ if not dominated.
You will not get folds because 2/5 are fishes that can't let go of AJ etc.

There are exceptions though.

I could give tips on how to 3 bet light but I think one of your leaks is actually 3 betting pre.
Linear 3 bet pre should print ya money.

Notice that a poster has observed a leak at 2/5 that some 3 bet too often.
I have not observed this but seems relevant to you.
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10-30-2018 , 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bigreddog
At 2/5 live... I would not 3 bet with KJos etc.

Generally in 2/5 live, if someone raises pre you are behind at best holding KJ if not dominated.
You will not get folds because 2/5 are fishes that can't let go of AJ etc.

There are exceptions though.

I could give tips on how to 3 bet light but I think one of your leaks is actually 3 betting pre.
Linear 3 bet pre should print ya money.

Notice that a poster has observed a leak at 2/5 that some 3 bet too often.
I have not observed this but seems relevant to you.
I would agree with this because when I employ 3-betting I dont really have a rhyme or reason outside of building the pot which cant be the correct reason and sometimes I find myself 3-betting just because. I know that some of the more technical players have a frequency in which they 3-bet to try to balance their range. If you dont mind touching a bit on that, what is the factor outside of having a great starting hand that makes you say maybe I should 3 bet here?
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10-30-2018 , 07:21 PM
Overbluffing

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10-30-2018 , 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Potwinner
I would agree with this because when I employ 3-betting I dont really have a rhyme or reason outside of building the pot which cant be the correct reason and sometimes I find myself 3-betting just because. I know that some of the more technical players have a frequency in which they 3-bet to try to balance their range. If you dont mind touching a bit on that, what is the factor outside of having a great starting hand that makes you say maybe I should 3 bet here?
I really really dont want to give u tips on when to 3b pre but I can't help myself.

For me it is about the profiling. Always have a plan or a solid reason for 3b pre.
3b in position to iso the TAG that calls but will fold the flop to a c-bet.

Look for TAGs that do this while raising AJ etc pre flop.
Look for TAGs that bets flop only when they have something and fold easily.

Also better to 3b pre with 99etc than KJ.
Only in position and against a raiser that is not a nit that only raises QQ+
Do not 3b pre with 99 against a nit.

If you are going to 3b with 99 etc make sure your sizing is right.

Position and profiling if u wanna 3b light pre but I really think u should stick to linear 3b pre.
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10-30-2018 , 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Potwinner
Thats funny. Back in the day when I used to play 2/5 I had this mentality where if I ever got down to like 100-150 range I would just usually go play blackjack instead haha
Yeah. Sometimes you're down a couple of hundred and get lazy and figure "I'll try a double or nothing at the blackjack table". Not a great idea.

I was never a table game player, so I avoided it most the time.
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10-30-2018 , 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Potwinner
How do you feel about the better players who are more aggressive in nature, who always straddle the button and make it a huge raise?
one leak I noticed is someone might think another player is a better player because he's more aggressive. It's usually the opposite.
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10-30-2018 , 10:15 PM
Limping and then calling a raise while being OOP is the most consistent and costly leak of most live low stakes games imo. Plenty of this going on at 2/5. There is a misconception amongst 1/2 and 1/3 players that 2/5 is somehow a much tougher game. It really isn't. You will see a lot of the same bad player types. They just have more money. Yes there are more good players and some pros sprinkled in. It's still low stakes though.
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10-30-2018 , 10:33 PM
Not focusing enough and catching all the info about certain hands. I have seen many "pros" and people who take the game seriously routinely miss important details about HH's that they have been present for and end up stacking off in awful spots vs unbeatable ranges in non-cooler spots.
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10-31-2018 , 03:34 AM
cbetting way too much, esp regs
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10-31-2018 , 04:04 AM
Preflop is a pretty weak spot that I see regularly.

Limping is epidemic
It ranges from limping in EP with hand that could be raising with or they should be folding. Too limping too much in LP with utter trash (but hey Q3o can flop monsters)

Another thing I see is players complaining about other players play (the irony I know).

People cbetting when it is pretty obvious they didnt hit or cbetting so big when they did then complain noone called them when they hit top set.

One thing I have noticed only over the last year or so is that peoples turn play being average at best

As I have mentioned in other threads there are players that havent improved in like 5 year at this level making they above mistskes they dont really seem to care even though they take poker semi serious. They are the people you target as they are very predicable and easy to read.

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10-31-2018 , 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Playbig2000
one leak I noticed is someone might think another player is a better player because he's more aggressive. It's usually the opposite.
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there are a lot of players at 2/5 who are overly aggressive, don't have flatting ranges, they come into the pot for a raise or a 3bet and their sizings are too high, this is usually to prevent themselves from going deep into flops, they are not good at hand reading, but people might think they are good

bet sizing is a big issue at 2/5, it's rare to see people who's sizing isn't exploitable

i made a lot of money at 2/5 cold 4betting hands like QJs, KJo when i was playing 2/5 because people have wide 3betting ranges but no 4bet calling range

also, flatting their 3bets is a good plan when they don't know where they're at and the sizing is ******ed, like they go 5x pre and 1/4 OTF, wierd stuff like that

not to mention there are a lot of very very passive fit or fold players too
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10-31-2018 , 10:46 AM
Anything involving limping. Sizing.
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10-31-2018 , 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by winadil
One thing I have noticed only over the last year or so is that peoples turn play being average at best

As I have mentioned in other threads there are players that havent improved in like 5 year
Many players play short stack or tournaments where poker is mainly a two-street game.

Turn and river are going to take longer for players to learn well, as fewer hands get there with a tough decision remaining. Interestingly, more information (cards on table; range of opponent) is available at that point.
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11-01-2018 , 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by KT_Purple
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there are a lot of players at 2/5 who are overly aggressive, don't have flatting ranges, they come into the pot for a raise or a 3bet and their sizings are too high, this is usually to prevent themselves from going deep into flops, they are not good at hand reading, but people might think they are good

bet sizing is a big issue at 2/5, it's rare to see people who's sizing isn't exploitable

i made a lot of money at 2/5 cold 4betting hands like QJs, KJo when i was playing 2/5 because people have wide 3betting ranges but no 4bet calling range

also, flatting their 3bets is a good plan when they don't know where they're at and the sizing is ******ed, like they go 5x pre and 1/4 OTF, wierd stuff like that

not to mention there are a lot of very very passive fit or fold players too
I agree with the bolded part, although I would probably choose hands with an A in them to block AA, AK and other hands that would 5-bet us like A5ss. I also really want to make sure the guy has a fold button pre and post flop. It's rare to find a wide 3-bettor who isn't also a fish that won't go crazy post-flop with their air looking to win every hand or make hero calls with any pair. But you're right, a lot of players don't have a 4-bet calling range (OOP I am assuming you met).

The part about flatting their 3-bets Im not so sure about. Are you flatting OOP with your entire opening range? This is exactly what the whales do...

What's your plan for the hand?
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