2/3 holdem. Smallest game in the casino. I rarely play 2/3 but I’m semi-tilted after just busting the $550 tournament to a 3-outer and just want to splash around and run over a smaller game.

Passive fishy table. I’m playing a lot of pots super aggressively, getting folds to double/triple barrel bluffs and generally only showing down monsters but playing and running good despite stacking off early in a big pot.

V1 is a MAWG reg fish, terrible bet sizing (small) on all streets including min-raising 6 limpers from the SB preflop etc.….only player wearing sunnies, sits stone faced/doesn’t talk when involved in pots because he’s seen the pro’s do it on TV by the looks of it.

V2 is a fun MAWG fish losing money, playing horribly but not really caring.

I’m a MAWG. While I’ve been aggressive I’m by no means perceived as getting of line IMO. I’ve only really shown down big hands and have the respect of the table I believe.

I might have the seats wrong because I've just returned with dinner and am eating while playing my first hand back and am not really paying attention. I don’t think V1 likes me very much, only because I’ve been owning him without showdown.

Max buy-in is $300
V1 – Button? ($450)
V2 – UTG ($150-$200)
Hero HJ ($1300)



10 handed
V2 UTG limps
Couple of callers
I call with QJo in the HJ
V1 raises to $12 OTB
Only V2 and hero call.

3 way to the flop

Flop 89Tss

V2 bets $20
Hero calls
V1 calls

Turn J (red)....sigh

V2 bets $25
Hero raises to $65
V1 tanks forever….looks like he’s definitely either folding or calling (more likely folding) but then raises to $165 leaving $250 behind
V2 folds

Hero????

Fold. Or you can put in $400 hoping for a chop.

Raise flop for value. Start building the pot.

As played fold because you could be freerolled by AQ or crushed by KQ.

And yeah. Raise the flop FFS!

got to raise the flop. you say you're running over the table already and here you are flopping the nizzles on a board that must hit everybody to some degree - this is a slam dunk opportunity to raise big like you're full of ****.

in terms of his range

is he bad enough to do this with a 7?

would he really bet 20 into a stacked field with two overs and a gutshot?

would he raise here with a set?

I'm not sure I can fold the second nuts here because I don't think it's necessarily a chop

Yeah of course I considered raising the flop but in game felt I'd likely fold out V1 and V2 was short.

Figured we could build a big pot multiway on any brick turn with the shorty showing aggression OOP

It's the shorty donking the flop, not V1

I'm cool with the overlimp after a few limps, just trying to get into a hand for cheap, with a decent chance at having position, and going from there.

Even though we're getting a good price, I would fold to the raise because it's only 3way (not getting good enough immediate odds plus not enough players in the pot to give us a good chance at stacking one of them), we'll be OOP (more difficult to make money / play postflop), plus our hand is incredibly dominated.

Lol, nice flop.

SPR is 12ish against raiser so we're going to need 3 streets of PSBs to get stacks in. The other guy donking really screws things up a bit because his bet size isn't big enough to accomodate this and we don't know for sure whether V1 will raise. Plus this board is just too scary to slowplay as there are a zillion scare cards on the turn. So I'd raise the flop, probably just to a "standard" 3x $60 in order to hope V1 comes along still.

Our raise size on the turn is way too small. There's already $120 in the pot and we're making it lol $65? Have to raise way more, and yet at the same time we could be hating life since KQ got there.

I'd probably ship it and live with results. We're only behind to KQ (which is a real possibility). We're chopping with QQ (although they may have raised the flop). We're ahead of all sets, but are those really raising the turn (highly unlikely, imo), and ditto for AA/KK. Lol, the more I think about it the more I'm convincing myself we're chopping at best; maybe a fold is better? ETA: I'm leaning more towards a fold now; sets just ain't raising this, they are calling the smallish bet to boat up. We're drawing to a chop at absolute best, and as others have said might even being freerolled against.

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I roughly count 26 non-brick cards.

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I'd raise pre.

AP, agree flop is a raise.

Easy fold on the turn.

Raise the flop and get committed. Learn how to play big pots when you got a big hand. Start early in the hand building the pot heavily.

raise the flop because you can't count on V1 to raise your flat and the board is very wet.

V2 donks for 20 with ~175 behind
If you raise it to 60, you have an easy time getting stacks in on the turn and you'll be able to narrow V1's range if they call

Yeah I guess raising the flop is best. Folding out V1 was my main concern and felt he may have taken the initiative IP if I just flatted.

Probably didn't consider bad turn cards well enough.

Thinking about it some more I'm 100% raising that flop at 2/5 against the regs I usually play with so not sure why it felt so different at 2/3. Game is definitely more passive with some scared money.

I really think this is a raise pre. If this is not a raise pre, then WE HAVE to raise the flop, because we otherwise are not making use of our post flop advantage and that makes the limp even worse.

Standard fold vs passive opposition.

While I agree 100% with raising on the flop, raising pre is a waste in anything below 2/5 (and a fair number of 2/5's too). Good spots are relatively easy to find at the lower blinds and you want to get in cheap.

Nevet folding the turn to a fish at $2/3. If he has KQ God bless him. Might fold the river if a flush comes in and he bets again. Might not.

These players can't read a board and will keep betting worse a lot of the time.

True they can't read a board, but it's effectively $350 to win $130 when chopping. I can let that one go.

Raise pre.

Raise flop.

AP, fold.

Not sure if you had the Qs, but if not then you're more often getting freerolled by a regfish taking this line. I don't have much of an IP flop raising range in any game and I get the feeling that you don't either given your first explanation for calling, but for sure this is a spot to do it given hand+image+stack dynamics+PFR yet to act.

AP, just puke fold the turn after getting 3b by PFR that overcalled this flop. Fool or not, he can read a 4liner+FD on board and is unlikely to start bluffing now against shorty bet bet and an action player turn raise who has him covered.

I had black QJo. I folded, he didn't show. Problem with some fish is they themselves often don't know if they're value betting or bluffing.

Pretty sure he was nutted though but who knows.

Against typical casino regs who know two pair / 7x is worthless on this board, they know whether they are value betting vs bluffing.

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