Hero was on a rush and decided to ride it in this hand. Villain is loose pf either limping or raising about 2/3 of the time (more limping than raising). I didn't get to see any of his hands down to showdown however. Chased oesd and fds all night a long with a few gutters. He was complaining that he might not ever hit a flush or straight draw all night.


(~$250)Folds to Villain utg+2: raises to $10
($450)Folds to Hero otb: calls $10 with Jh 7h. Hero has won the last 3 hands. Was called down on a flopped boat of queens full on a Q 7 7 A 8 board by A 10 and doubled up on a flopped top two pair on a 8 6 3 board vs J J no raise pf. Other hand hero raised pf and c-bet to take down the pot. Hero's image is tag and right now he has the table on its heels.

Flop: Jd 5c 2d Pot: $23

Villain: bets $20
Hero: calls $20
(pretty standard c-bet by villain. He had been making pot sized c-bets all night.)

Turn: 8s Pot:$63

Villain: checks
Hero: bets $45
Villain: thinks for a minute and calls

River: 9c Pot: $153

Villain: Bets out $120
Hero: is thinking for about 10-20 seconds max and then villain calls clock...???
After about 50 seconds hero ended up folding and villain sent his cards into the muck.
Seems like a fold but i'm not so sure here. I don't see villain checking the turn and letting any draw see a free river unless he had a fd, was holding something like 6 6 7 7 9 9 or 10 10 or maybe checks a turned set of 8s hoping i bet? Of course i'm losing to 8s and 9s but idk i'm probably over thinking. Anyone find a call?

First off I would fold pre unless you have better reads on villain and are confident in your ability to outplay him post flop.

As for your line, looks pretty standard and I feel like there's a good chance you got backdoored here by something like QTdd or 89dd. It's possible he spazzed with missed diamond overs but given that you've shown down goods the last few hands and the way this hand played put, I'm leaning him towards a suckout rather than a bluff, and since that's pretty much all we beat, I think this is a fold.

cant beat any of his value hands, so how often is he bluffing in this spot?

Fold, call the clock on him for the remainder of the night as soon as the action is on him

lol.

Does anyone think calling the clock on someone that quickly is a tell? Or calling the clock at all? Personally I would never clock anyone in a cash game while i'm still in the hand. If i folded and someone is taking entirely too long then maybe. Tournament is a different story.

what a bad bet on the turn.... can you tell me what your thought process was there?

[x] fish on a heater itt

God I love live $1/$2

this ^

i'd check behind turn and hope to get to cheap showdown on non-diamond river/reevaluate on diamond rivers based on what he does


as played, fold river

I felt that a decent amount of the time i take it down right their. His c-bet range was pretty wide and then the check on the turn from him could have him easily been giving up with 2 overs. Plus if I check and I am ahead there are quite a few scare cards to come on that river that he could take advantage of even if he doesn't hit. When he called the turn i thought i could have easily been behind something like A J or K J but when he made the pot sized river bet it didn't make sense to me unless it was a bluff or a monster. I don't think Q Q-A A or tpgk-tptk make that bet on the river. Only hands i see him having that could make that bet are Kd Qd+, sets, complete air, and maybe Qd 10d backed into it although i think he would have limped pf with Q 10 suited but it could be in his pf raising range.

Ok, so only better hands will call your turn bet and leave you in a bloated pot on the river. You are betting to "protect" your hand from the 6 outs that overcard hands like AK, AQ, KQ have?

not only that but you also risk getting c/red off your hand? your turn bet is useless.