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12-28-2008 , 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Melchiades
Can we keep the idol/philosophy discussion out of this thread?
Too bad you didn't like the philosophy questions posted in this thread.

(Thread shouldn't be hijacked though)
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12-28-2008 , 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jlocdog
Jman,



You said this last year (in this thread) and I responded that it was extremely profound..................................

I'm hoping you will clarify this for me
You're kind've on target here. The main point is that I think some people take range balance too far (I'm one of them, but not the worst offender). The truth is, everyone, including great 25/50+ regulars, are exploitable, and have tendencies that can give you an idea of what they'll do in certain spots.

If your stupid opponent is always folding to your river bet in this particular spot, you can be bluffing 90% of the time and that's okay. The best players know their opponents tendencies very well and know when to make themselves unbalanced for the sake of being exploitative.
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12-28-2008 , 11:04 PM
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Originally Posted by aejones
for the moment i will forgive that you are 0 for 3 responding to my IMs

how can i go from running the 25-50 and 50-1 streets to running the 200-400 and 500-1k streets?

do you think anyone is "really" rolled for 500-1k? assuming there are like 2-4 online players and about the same number of live players actually rolled for it, what do you think about someone with only a few buy ins for the game online, and only a few more buy ins offline taking a shot in games that are softer than most 5-10 games?

is it worth it? how has shot taking changed from the times when you did it to now, where the game climate has changed to not a lot of 25-50 and 50-1 games running where you can "grind it back"?
To sum up my feelings on this, half of me wishes I never made the leap. I don't think the nosebleed guys are making enough more than the 25/50 guys to justify the complete change in job description.

I'm essentially on call 24/7, and my swings are enormous. Very few people are actually rolled for 500/1k. I'm certainly not, especially considering I just bought a condo. If it goes very badly, I'll have to move down. I dunno. I'm prepared to take that gamble.

As far as you making the jump. I don't know your roll situation or your mental stability, but you just do it if you want to try. Take the shot. Have a stoploss. See how it goes and decide from there what to do next. I'm assuming you don't play plo much. That might make it not worth taking the shot. 200/400+ NL doesn't run enough to make that your main game, and if you just play it occasionally, then go back to 25/50, it'll be very tilting. I promise.
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12-28-2008 , 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tcorbin16
What are your thoughts on very successful NL players learning PLO.... do you feel it is imperative to do so? A lot of players have obviously transitioned to playing PLO and find it more enjoyable than NLHE, but for some people who make 6 figs every month or close to it playing NLHE... is it really worth picking up the new game? It probably means more to know how to play PLO at higher stakes like idk 25/50+ maybe thats too low... but you get my drift I think.

Cliff notes: someone who is very good at NLHE who makes a lot every month consistently... is it worth picking up a new game being the fish again and working your way up to levels that you have reached jman?

(sorry if this has been asked already)

another thing too: how do you feel about coaching and what not. I'm sure you can charge more than almost all of us but for some who can coach for say like 500/hr with stress free $$$... is it worth it??? maybe it's just too personal of a question for you to give a solid/definite answer.

/sorry for lame questions lawl
If you want to play poker seriously for 5+ years and you want to potentially move up, not learning new games is silly. If you just wanna make what you're making for a few more years, yeah, just do that.

Coaching is a good alternative if you enjoy it (or even don't hate it). I consider coaching a lot. I actually really really enjoy it. The problem for me personally is that no one can really make it worth my while to coach besides people I have a good shot at playing with on a regular basis (unless people want to hand over a lot of their profits for like, the next 1-3 years) and I don't want to teach them how to lose less to me.
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12-28-2008 , 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SoCalQuest
How often are you neutral or -ev in a game (presumably for the challenge)? I remember reading somewhere that you played the 50k horse tournament and you didn't feel on par with the field on day one. Was this for the challenge or more for fun?
This was a little bit different. It was partially to learn the game. Live tourneys are a great way to learn a new game. It also was a decent shot at making a TV final table and winning a bracelet, even though I clearly wasn't one of the stronger players in the field. I think I was probably neutral EV in that event. Even if I lost a little EV, I was paying for the practice and the bracelet shot.
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12-28-2008 , 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by zuutroy
Yo,
Any chance you're gonna release that stuff on opponent profiling which you wrote. I pm'd you a while back and you were still undecided as to its fate.
I have about 1/20th of a book finished. Maybe one day...
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12-28-2008 , 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by captZEEbo
Probably some lame questions, but I'm just curious.

You mentioned that being well rounded is good for a long-term poker career. Do you plan on learning the horse games anytime soon? What would motive you to learn them?

How long does it take to figure out who an unknown at the 500/1k stakes is or if they're worth playing?

I've been working on HORSE a little bit. So far I've just been playing some and discussing hands with friends that kind've know the games. I'd like to hire a coach but I don't know who I'd hire.

It doesn't take that long for me if I'm playing HU to figure out how good someone is. I get to showdown more than most, so I learn a lot about them by the hands I get to see.
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12-28-2008 , 11:29 PM
I'm sorry, guys, but I'm done again. If I have a really interesting thought on something else posted, I may post someday.

Thanks for the great questions, and the string of very nice compliments at the end and throughout. Good luck.

-Phil
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12-28-2008 , 11:39 PM
This well further justifies why you're my most respected and favored poker player.

Cheers,
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12-29-2008 , 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by lolasthma
phil, i have it from a pretty good authority (the potasznik variety) that you were straight up nasty at RB back at wootton

and that you are sick fast. how fast is/was your 40? what's the sickest play you ever made in high school?
Just saw this question. How do you know a Potaz?

I guess I was sick nasty for a team that goes 2-8 every year. At good other highschools I prolly wouldn't have been that good.

I never was timed. I had a teammate who went to a HS combine thing and got timed at 4.5. I was a couple steps faster than him, but I've heard they aren't that accurate with timing.

Sickest play? Idk, just regular stuff. A few long TD runs I guess. I have a VHS tape somewhere of a few highlights, I think at my parent's house. I wonder if I could find it.

My sickest game was probably one where I scored 4 TDs, 3 after fracturing my arm (I didn't know or I would've satout). We still lost though.

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12-29-2008 , 12:42 AM
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Originally Posted by reincarnated
who does Maryland have?
Jman, Genius28, Peachykeen and others im sure im forgetting.
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12-29-2008 , 12:46 AM
i hear they also got this kid named charder who is sick at EPTs
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12-29-2008 , 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Jman28
Just saw this question. How do you know a Potaz?

I guess I was sick nasty for a team that goes 2-8 every year. At good other highschools I prolly wouldn't have been that good.

I never was timed. I had a teammate who went to a HS combine thing and got timed at 4.5. I was a couple steps faster than him, but I've heard they aren't that accurate with timing.

Sickest play? Idk, just regular stuff. A few long TD runs I guess. I have a VHS tape somewhere of a few highlights, I think at my parent's house. I wonder if I could find it.

My sickest game was probably one where I scored 4 TDs, 3 after fracturing my arm (I didn't know or I would've satout). We still lost though.

This is a great post. I think a lot of poker is about how you handle pain and this shows the pain OMGCLAYAIKEN can really handle. If you can handle getting tackles with an arm brace on, that means you can handle the tackling variance. Great stuff.
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12-29-2008 , 01:43 AM
oh my god that picture is so epically awesome
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12-29-2008 , 01:53 AM
On a scale from 1-5, how much do you hate me?
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12-29-2008 , 03:35 AM
Do you think the nosebleeds should have longer timebanks than normal tables?
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12-29-2008 , 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Jman28
Just saw this question. How do you know a Potaz?

I guess I was sick nasty for a team that goes 2-8 every year. At good other highschools I prolly wouldn't have been that good.

I never was timed. I had a teammate who went to a HS combine thing and got timed at 4.5. I was a couple steps faster than him, but I've heard they aren't that accurate with timing.

Sickest play? Idk, just regular stuff. A few long TD runs I guess. I have a VHS tape somewhere of a few highlights, I think at my parent's house. I wonder if I could find it.

My sickest game was probably one where I scored 4 TDs, 3 after fracturing my arm (I didn't know or I would've satout). We still lost though.

i go to school with sam, he's my suitemate. he said you were buddies with his brother.

and yeah apparently wootton is a pretty perennial underachiever - but sam was pumped as all hell this year when wootton made the playoffs. they did lose in the first round, but hey, playoffs.

epic story about that game, and the picture complements it nicely (but lol at the use of the NFL patriots' logo as the logo on your uniform). i suspected you'd be #28, should've asked originally in my post
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12-29-2008 , 06:00 AM
Awesome read even though my question(s) didn't get a response, hope you can get back to them during the 2-year anniv. of this well.
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12-29-2008 , 10:24 AM
Hey Jman,

I have interesting question.
mmm...i am too late. but i will try.

would you take the coaching from Ivey, if it would be possible:

Ivey multitables 4 tables:
1. 50 000$/hour just railing his play, i mean you see his hole cards and what his doing in silence.

2. 150 000$/hour with all detailed comments on his action, his explanation, reads and so on.
what you'd choose? 1 or 2
i believe that one hour of such coaching would give you a lot in comparison to second hour at the same price. i think that even that price level is too small.

do you think that such coaching could let you know something "wow" or you just could get a better read on ivey and other oponents, i mean nothing new in general?

thank you for answering.
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12-29-2008 , 11:34 AM
1 question and also probably too late : )
Why don't you start up a new blog?
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12-29-2008 , 12:03 PM
how does it feel to make 1.7 mill in a day online?
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12-29-2008 , 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by ZJ123
Jman, Genius28, Peachykeen and others im sure im forgetting.

mikech, and me who clearly take the cake on this list ldo.

Phil,

Thanks for revisiting the thread, some amazing content in here and a very enjoyable read. Good luck in '09 and in life.
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12-29-2008 , 05:21 PM
First of all, Jman, thanks for doing all this! That is amazing thread, and your approach to playing poker became a guiding light for many of us.

If it is not too late, my question:

What do you see as game evolution in future? Like it was with 3betting/4betting few years ago, what may be next? Different bet sizes (hello Raptor ), some mathematical approach to adjusting, maybe something else?

My English language is not native, sorry for mistakes, and Happy new year!
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12-29-2008 , 06:13 PM
anyone know where the old thread "ended" and the revisted thread "begins?"
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12-29-2008 , 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rand
anyone know where the old thread "ended" and the revisted thread "begins?"
when jman said he was gonna revisit thread for a day and answer questions
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