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09-18-2023 , 12:52 PM

NittyOldMan1

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1/3 $1.2k deep.

utg limps. taggish guy limps UTG+2. i make it $30 in CO. loose button calls. loose BB calls. UTG calls. UTG+2 now makes it $140. ive never seen him make this play. i suspect a squeeze but i dont want to GII this deep with AKo.

your play?

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09-18-2023 , 01:00 PM

Playbig2000

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I would just fold to the l/rr but that's just me. It's never anything we're ahead of.

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09-18-2023 , 01:23 PM

adonson

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Gross spot with three players calling your large raise and then the limp-3bet that suggests a hand as strong as yours. Any reads on the BTN and the BB about their calling range here? Do they ever call with AA, KK, AK? Does UTG-2 ever limp-re-raise with QQ, AQ or worse? I'm kind of leaning fold since going to war with one V with AK yields at best only half the pot.

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09-18-2023 , 01:32 PM

gobbledygeek

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I fold. EP limp/reraises should be heavily weighted towards hands that are destroying us until shown otherwise, imo.

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09-18-2023 , 01:34 PM

NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by adonson

i have BTN and BB's ranges beat, and crush the low end of their ranges. i doubt they fold if i call given everyone is so deep.

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09-18-2023 , 01:57 PM

NittyOldMan1

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Originally Posted by Playbig2000

I would just fold to the l/rr but that's just me. It's never anything we're ahead of.

would you fold AKs?

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09-18-2023 , 02:04 PM

larry the legend

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If you suspect a squeeze then go with it and click it back to $275-$300. You said your image is tight, use it.

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09-18-2023 , 03:13 PM

Playbig2000

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Originally Posted by NittyOldMan1

would you fold AKs?

It's still 110 more to call and it doesn't change it too much only a few percentage points better but we would be putting in a tenth of our stack to try and hit a flop. If we flop top pair and he's going broke, do we call him down for 400 bb's? (only to be shown top set since I'm putting his range as AA or KK much more than AK, since players don't usually squeeze lighter like this it's rare unless he's already known to do these things). I don't feel nitty when making these folds but that's just me.

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09-18-2023 , 03:16 PM

QuadJ

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If you have never seen him limp/raise your first thought should be he limped a big pair expecting a raise. This is AA/KK most of the time. Given that I just fold AK suited or unsuited, the first time I see a villain do this.

If he starts doing this on a regular basis then you can consider if you want to call or shove with some idea what his range is.

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09-19-2023 , 08:48 AM

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Mlark

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Easy fold vs unknown.

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