2-5 NLH I look down at KK preflop and raise to $20 in middle position and both the blinds call.

Both check to me on a 246 rainbow flop, I bet $40 and the small blind calls.

The turn brings another 6 pairing the board, I bet $75 into $140 and he calls.

The river brings a Q and he leads for $225 into $290. As I'm tanking he says that this hand played out in a very weird way.

I end up figuring I'm at the top of my range and he could either be bluffing with a missed draw and is putting me on air like AK or he has some kind of AQ hand that was too sticky to fold so I toss in the call.

He shows me QQ for Queens full of 66s and scoops the $740 pot.

What do you guys think I should do here?

I would probably check the turn unless I knew for sure that the SB was a big fish. Top pair just improved to trips, and any hand you are still ahead of doesn’t have that many outs and could maybe call a river bet if you check turn. This isn’t like if a 9 comes and then all of a sudden there are a lot of hands that peeled flop and still have a lot of outs to beat you.

Don't post results. You won't get unbiased answers.

Do you have any reads on the SB?

I would range him on having mostly PP's and on rare occasions two overs that floated, or SC's that connected in some way.

When he donks out for 225 into 290 otr after calling a hp turn bet, it's usually better than a one pair hand IME. One pair hands usually try to get to SD cheaper by c/c'ing rather than leading out while he's likely expecting all hero's over pair to call.

Definitely at least consider a turn check. Your hand isn't all that vulnerable and 6x can definitely make up a solid bit of SB range. That being said you will still get calls from all the overpairs and maybe Ax not to mention the various straight draws.

River you could be up against a 6, could be up against a Queen, could be up against a slowplayed monster, could be up against nothing at all. It would be a very strange way for 77-JJ to play the hand. I'm just not sure how many Qx hands there are that call the flop (I presume the turn card put a flush draw on the board? If not then there really shouldn't be any Qx unless it's a sticky AQ). There aren't a huge number of bluffs that would have stuck around on the flop - maybe A5, 54, 78 sort of hands.

You need to be best about 30% of the time. Probably pretty close. The slowplayed monsters and 6x feel more natural to take this line.

Checking back when the top card pairs is pretty common as the PFR in general, and would let someone bluff into you with overs otr. As played, im probably folding but in expecting 6x 44 or 22 more than lol QQ

In addition to not showing results right away, stating effective stacks is helpful.

Probably cbetting 1/3 vs 2/3, and checking back turn. Then, I'd feel better about bluff-catching a 3/4 pot donk for 15bb or so. Vs 43bb.

AP, we're losing to a lot of what called 2/3 flop, 1/2 bet on a board-pairing turn. Then V leads into you for 3/4 on the river.

I'm not sure my overpair is good here, and I don't see a lot of hands with a Q getting to this point anyway. (Though QQ did, lol.) Is AQ/KQ/QJ/QT floating this far? I don't see a V range I'm likely good against 30.4% of the time. So I fold.

What range are we giving V where we are good >30%?

Not enough info to know what we want to do here. How deep are we with V? Any reads on him?

Turn - gotta be a check back when SB calls our flop c-bet. What is he calling us with on the flop that will continue to call if he hasn't improved?

In the absence of other info, this would be a hard fold for me to make, even though this check-call, check-call, donk-lead huge line is very rarely a bluff. I'd probably lean towards calling, putting V on a lot of strong QX combos, especially if V seemed LAG. But if he seemed loose-passive, I could probably find a fold.

I doubt I'd be giving him QQ here when he just flats pre from the SB, but I probably would be giving him trip 6's, at a minimum.

When he flats pre from the SB, he could also maybe have some 53s, 64s, 62s, and maybe even Q6 that gets played this way.

With that speech this is a fold for sure.

It's equivalent to when you try and guess their hand and they smile and say something like, "I don't have a 6. Sorry that's all I can say."

Any sort of speech is generally a sign of strength. Good pick up. I wouldn't necessarily have thought much about it, when all he said was that the hand played out weirdly.

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