1/2 NL @ MGM Springfield. Villain Hijack is a 65+ year old looking guy. Maybe played with him once weeks/months ago briefly. This hand I'm pretty sure he's nursing his 1st or 2nd beer (from my observation) but he doesn't seem wasted or anything near that. Probably working on a little nice beer buzz tho if I had to guess. He seems rather solid postflop capable of folding top pair when it seems clear he's beat...pretty sure I've seen him fold a KT or KJ type of hand faceup in the past (maybe at this table...maybe that one other session we played in past....idk) on K high flop facing heavy multiway action...but he's also a bit loose/passive preflop doing more limping than he probably should cuz ya'know drinkin them beers will do that to the best of us. I start the hand with about 800 and I believe he's got me slightly covered with about 1k.

I pretty recently (1 or 2 hands ago) 3 bet large...I believe I had AK or KK or QQ and everybody folded preflop. Maybe could influence people's decision in this hand, idk. Nobody seems to pay much attention at 1-2 NL anyways so I wouldn't put too much weight in that fact, but figure it's worth mentioning as I've seen people blow up and give wild action to someone who makes two or three 3bets within a few hands.

I believe some rando open limps EP/MP....villain limps LJ...pretty sure it wasn't an open limp on his part TBH but not 100% sure. I know it's pretty relevant cuz can make a kinda huge difference in this spot but sorry I'm not 100% sure.

Some kinda agro reggy lookin youngish guy opens button or cutoff to 16. He's got a pretty heavy stack 550-600ish if I recall correctly.

I got the rockets in the BB and re-raise to 69 verbally quickly lol (maybe I even added a funny slurping noise or big lick comment or something silly along those lines...u know, to rep 69off to try'n get some action here) cuz I don't want to let pocketpairs get good implied odds to set mine cuz it's typically tough to fold a hand like AA from OOP in 3 bet overbet pot after a typical cbet especially if board is drawy and esp if the pot ends up going multiway for 69 each...lots of 1-2 games go multiway in 3 bet pots cuz lol it's 1-2 and people don't drive to the casino to fold preflop.

If there was an EP/MP limp fairly sure that guy folded and now this villain guy hems and haws a bit looks like he's gonna fold, I believe I do one of my classic wacky twitches that I used to do a lot 15-20 years ago when I read Barry Greenstein's book and he suggested doing that when you got a monster and people look like they gonna fold cuz maybe they'll read it as weakness and playback. Not that this **** matters but I like adding all the stupid details in my posts clearly cuz lol. Now the villain raises to $212 and the button reg guy folds.

He's put in damn near 1/3 of his stack at this point. He's repping a total monster and I'd imagine most people who who put in roughly 1/3 their stack don't do that just to fold (tho I have seen it). Anyways this hand is silly but made me think of something DGAF Billy once said about live poker and how sometimes you gotta do the cheeky click-it-back type bet in these rare weird wacky spots when you're nutted and opponent seems second-nutted but capable of finding a fold to a jam but will certainly give action and eventually stack off to the wacky 5bet (or 6bet or 7 bet) followed by 15-20% bet on next street lol.

What's the play here?





a) Cheeky click it back to 355?

a.2) Super cheeky semi angle move of putting out 285 and then when everybody gets confused and dealer counts it out to the dollar and rules it as >50% (by $1 or $0.50) of 1/2 a raise and rules it as a raise make a huge big stink and call the floor etc. saying you just meant to call and put on your best Oscar winning performance pretending to be upset and that you made an honest mistake and you'll never come back and play at this casino if they rule this as a raise when it was clearly a mistake LOL

b) Ship it on his face?

c) Something in between like $420 or $500? ...planning to ship every flop.

d) Just flat call and bomb flop?

d.2) Just flat call and make a extra cheeky non-bomb flop bet of like something between $2-$150 just to put the opponent in one of the wackiest poker spots of his life?

e) Flat call and check to him on any flop expecting him to rip it?

Well if nobody wants to chime in then maybe I’ll just slow leak spoil some info by saying what I did when it was my action facing $212…?

I think all your options are great, you can’t screw this up if you tried. I would mix jam and call + check dark.

f) learn to write where it’s not so painful to read

FIFY. Everything else is just noise.

I tried really hard not to screw it up and guess what I managed to

What day and time did stacks get this large at MGM Springfield1/2? The last months I’ve played there, stacks were mostly under 200.

You’ll get more traction on your posts if you make them more concise.

I’m probably raising to around 300 to get it all in on the flop.

Literally a min click is 355 so 300 can’t happen unless you chose option a.2 but you gotta do a good acting job. I personally think the more info the better when describing live hands but obviously stupid stuff like what the color shirt the guy is wearing and exactly what time of time it is to exact minute are silly and I won’t add that stuff but some background is always key to add when IMO because without that there’s not much to discuss cuz answer will just be “it depends.” So I feel it’s best to give as much pertinent info about things that “it would depend on” when posting a hand.

I ain’t played at springy in months but every time I’d been there in past max buy in was always 500 @1/2 and they let you straddle anywhere so pots tend to play bigger than the average 1/2 IMO and people play a little looser than average so money tends to move quick so seeing the occasional 2k+ stack ain’t too uncommon

If I read it right, he put in 1/3 of his stack and you have AA. So all in. You don't want him to fold, but he is pretty much never folding. You don't lose that much if he folds a pp. You don't want to call and check and give him 4 free cards, where he could maybe beat you. If he folds when he misses, you is pretty much drawing dead, and that is a worse disaster than if he folds preflop with equity.

Hard to read with all the other commentary. I think I got the situation right.

My new theory of $1-$2 is to treat all limps like opens, all opens like 3-bets, all 3-bets like 4-bets, etc.

So treat Villain’s 4-bet like a 5-bet. And unless we are insanely deep, general strategy is that we should not have a 6-betting range preflop—we just call with 100% of our continuing range, including AA.

So I would just call.

So this guy put 1/3 of his stack in with QQ/KK/AK and he is folding to a shove? Maybe we shouldn't have a 5-betting range deeper. That also assumes a good player with good reads. It makes no sense to let him see 4-cards and then decide whether to get the last psb in.

I kinda liked the first part of the post cuz you're right that open limping is super common in 1/2 where the frequency you see it is just as often as you'd see people open raising in 25-50NL+ games where mostly everybody knows better than to openlimp.

But you lost me on the last part of not being allowed to have a 6bet range. That seems silly

yeah I felt the same way. seems another poster above mentioned the danger of letting an opponent see 3 to 4 cards for free can cost us the entire post plus most/all of the rest of our stack. I felt a 5 bet was kind of necessary as I just couldn't imagine him doing this way anything but heavy value; he just didn't seem drunk enough.

I chose to raise to $505 - thoughts?

Yeah make your post more concise if you want more responses.

A lot of the information you include is not only irrelevant, but you're not even sure about the details so not sure why you bothered to include them.

I.e. two hours prior I may or may not have raised pf with AK, I could've been in the bathroom idk.

Villain in question could have had cards maybe not but anyways I raised.

So the other three guys in the hand had some chips in front of them I think. Maybe it was one guy idk.

So anyways my hand is AA or maybe it was 76s I can't remember but anyways....
This is how most of your post reads.

Your entire post could've literally been one sentence.

Anyways I'm just shoving here and either result is great due to the amount of money villain has stuck in the middle.

If you call and check the flop, he might fold AK or QQ on a bad board. Say he is bluffing with a suited connector. Then he might have AA beat by the turn or fold with 9 high or whatever if he missed badly.

kinda a dickhead reponse IMO. I clearly stated a recently made a large 3 bet that took it down preflop within the past 2-3 hands or so. Much different that whatever BS you're alluding to

Then just included 1-3 important facts like that and leave out the other semi-relevant information.

Sorry about that yeah I could've been more constructive.

Here's an example of what I would've posted instead so you have something to reference.

1/2 NL @ MGM Springfield. Hero 800 in BB w/ AA
Villain: LJ is a 65+ year old looking guy. 1k
LP capable of folding top pair post flop. Played w/ him maybe 1 time prior.

PF: Limp, V limps LJ, CO 16 (550), Hero 3bets to 69, fold, Villain 212, fold, Hero...

It is easier to read Spy's post. So villain overlimp 4-bet like Sklansky. This should be either KK/AK or a bluff. Presumably KK/AK aren't folding and you don't want to let a suited connector or whatever have 4 free cards and a chance to fold with no pair. If he was trapping with AK, it might be a fold to the 3! at these stakes. If he somehow 4-bet folds AK or JJ so be it. IMO flat calling is really bad.

You mean you do want 76s to cbet on the 922 flop. At this spr he might bluff shove any flop.

well I was I had x-ray vision to see villains holecards and the 3 cards in dealer's stub beneath the burn so I can play perfect in the rare scenario this guys got 76s and flop comes 922 but the thing about poker is unfortunately we can't see them. I kind of figured that we're ahead (or at worst chopping) right now and there's already over 105BB from villain himself out there (plus closer to 150BB including entire pot) which was worth fighting for and even if he does find a fold it's not bad to win ~115 BB without having to worry about getting drawn out on a flop some % of the time so I went for the 4B to 505.

I kind of really like option a.2 maybe cuz i'm a scum angler at heart or something but it seems like even a min raise at this size/depth is almost still enough to deny him getting good enough immediate + implied potodds to setmine or chase a flop with some rando SC or godknows what any two cards he's got even if it sort of "puts my hand faceup" because with a good enough acting job it can maybe convince him my range is wayyyyyyy wider if he truly believes I mean to call but was too dumb to put the right amount out...who knows maybe it's even the only way for him to actually make the wild 27o 6bet re-re-re-re-resteal play (when he would fold to any other sizing....maybe even fold to an "honest minraise") shrug

Lol at advocating angling again.

glad you got a lol

A pp is 19-20%. A direct suited connector 23%. An ace is in bad shape. He needs to put in 33% of the money if you shove. You don't lose that much if he folds.

Clicking it back commits him, but might look stronger than shoving. You can do what you want and act or whatever to get the little more equity if he calls than if he folds. If you act, it is best to do it subtly, so as not to give a reverse tell. Some people do something weird with aces in terms of how they act, and it is not good.

You are committed, so seeing the flop and turn won't help you make a decision. You don't want to give him a lot more information before deciding whether to put the rest of his stack in.

Literally nothing you stated was clear. I would like to chime in as the third person to say your writing style is awful. No one is trying to be a dick when we tell you this. You made an entire “results” spoiler to whine about an entirely different post and then include the fact you didnt fold AA preflop. Nobody has time to read this drivel.