Playing in a juciy 1/2NL home game,

About 7 hours into the session pretty much all the same players, I had been super spewy early on in the session im in for $1300. Mostly getting it in on flops with big draws, (Pair + flush). Havent been hitting a thing. Finally built my stack up to ~$1200 and this hand occurs.

Villian in this hand, is pretty snug, plays ABC poker, straight forward, not really a thinking player, plays his cards not the player etc .... And he usually has "it"



Hero (Mid) ~$1200
Villian (SB) ~900

UTG straddles to $4, I raise to $20 910 in mid position, SB Calls, UTG Calls (62t)

Flop A87

Checked to me, I bet $45, SB Calls, UTG Folds, ($152t)

Turn J Whammy

SB Checks, I bet $75, SB Raises!!! $200, I tank and elect to call (Mistake ??). ($552t).

River 5

Villian Checks

Hero ???

Well from t means tournament. I would check this back in a tournament. In a cash game, Given your image of spazzing I would check back. People are going to c/r players like you all day.

350

V check feels to me like he's afraid of the flush/straight having hit you with the 5d. His hand feels like AJ to me. I'd bet $180-$250 and hope for a call.

This.

And I hate flatting the turn.

When somebody who "usually has it" raises, and you have the nuts, get as much money in as fast as you can. Don't like a diamond, T, 9, anything scare him away. He currently loves his hand, don't let the river change it.

I'm cool with preflop since it looks like it got what we accomplished (less than 4+ ways to the flop with position).

I'd just do a "typical" 1/2 PSB here. If someone has a good hand / Ax, they're calling. Otherwise, they're folding to any reasonable bet. No reason to make our draw more expensive.

I bet more on the turn, at least $100-$125 or even more if I think he'll call. Board is drawy, villain probably ain't folding an A yet. We might still have our spewy image from earlier. Makes it easier to get a lot more money in on the river.

I just shove the turn to the 3bet. Villain obviously loves his hand (a big check/raise on the turn!), he's not going anywhere. There's also a world of cards that could kill the river action (a diamond, a board pairing card, a T/9).

I think I shove the river, but I'm not sure that's right. Villain looks to be ABC playing his hand straightforward. He has a great hand on the turn, check/raised us, and is now scared of the flush. But he'll probably still call off the shove. Having said that, I never play 450 BBs deep, so making a 317 BB mistake here might be incorrect.

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if this is a very level one player then he isnt c/r the turn very often at all with a FD, so that really limits the number of flushes he has to almost none, I would think villains range consists of two pair and sets very often and put out a v large value bet on this river.

I guess you could make an argument that you can make like a 1/2 pot value bet if villain is the type to get scared of the flush on the river, but given his turn action he seems to like his hand alot.

this deep though not 3betting the turn is pretty criminal esp because villain has like zero bluffs in this range.

Big mistake to check back turn. Now flush has hit and it is hard to get value (or as much value). You know that when he raises on turn he has a huge hand, and is probably drawing to the nuts. So, why not charge him to do so? A guy like this is not going to fold turn.

Also, if you raise turn and flush hits river your river bet will look more bluffy (then, if stacks are deep you can make an overbet on river that will be called because your line makes no sense to villain). As played, when you bet river player may put you on the flush and fold...so I just make a value bet here...$200 to $250.

You should be reraising the turn. Villain isn't making a move. In fact, he probably has at least two pair, given your description of him. He aint folding. Make it $500. Actually, shipping it is probably better. It looks more bluffy, and he can't fold AJ or a set here.

How often do you really think Villain is raise/folding the turn?

As played, bet $350.

Three bet turn

Ship river. His calling range hardly changes at all between 350 and a ship.

hm.. this is probably right. Although villain may be the type who doesn't like to put the money all in without the goods. Sometimes the all in factor scares people.

3BALL/CALL THE TURN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

Was that loud enough?

As played OTR he doesn't have "it." If he is playing snug I don't see him calling big bets. You are going to have to find a number he is comfortable making a crying call with. I really highly doubt he is going for a c/r so no worries there.

Raise the turn, brah!

Time to take it down to Value Town, this is such a good spot to ship it though, he should never have a flush here.

But you should have raised the turn.

+1

snug players don't have too many suited cards in their range to begin with. On top of that, the A is on the board so that cuts down the chance even further. He called OOP so his PF range should be very strong here.
Based on your read, he should be doing this with 2 pair +. I would have shoved OTT.

OTR-he probably thinks you have a flush so he checked. I would still shove here. His range is pretty strong here and I doubt he can lay down his 2 pair or set.

Yeah... click it back on the turn.

Also, what are you scared of... bet the river ~320 and if he check/raises you then fold as you are always beat.

the size on turn can be bigger, 100-110dollar, if he raises here to like 270+ you can easy shove here and thats the plan to get the money in on the turn.

thats exactly what i was thinking reading the op.
i would never worry about a flush here.