Hero ~700
Villain ~450

Hero has been playing super tight do to being completely card dead. Havent really gotten out of line on anything/

Villain is fairly new to the table, maybe 1.5 hours deep into the session. Has been limping tons pre, calling raises pre, and then c/c or calling bets after the flop with 2p and TP hands. Play fairly loose passve pre, and tight passive post with a few lightish call downs.

Hero is MP with QQ
Villain is directly to left of Hero

3 limps to Hero
Hero raises to $20
Villain raises to $40
folds to Hero
Hero?

Set mine.

call to set mine - because he's a passive opponent
he wont fire without a strong hand

Yeah, add me to the set mine advocate parade. Obv fold any flop with A or K if he bets, and likely dry ones to. If he bets a dry flop, he prob has KK or AA. If he checks a dry flop, AK looks more likely, given reads.

+1 more to set mine.

Funny that I had a very similar hand yesterday same type of opponent. Board came AAK o.o and when he checked I leveled myself and bet half pot. He insta-over shipped lol.

i wont say setmine, but call for sure and play your best soul reading postflop. Great chance this player has us cooked here.

Call and reevaluate. Is this his first 3-bet?

I dont remember if this is his first cbet, or even his first raise pre, but since cbetting is pretty rare I'd say this probably was his first cbet.

Hero- Think to himself this guy has been calling and limping preflop and all of a sudden he raises... Ugh.... Guess Im set mining here and if I miss its a c/f.

Hero calls $20

Flop ($89)

J J 7

Hero? (follows his plan or decides to do something else?)

Still c/f.

I don't want to try and bluff him off AA or KK here, even though an intelligent player might be scared of trips. If we try a huge check raise, we're risking way too much to win a small pot, and fishies don't like to fold overpairs.

Check. If he bets a stupidly small amount call and play a turn.

Check.

In general, I don't attempt to fold out players whose likely range is KK+, and I don't think we should really be planning to in this spot.

But if you are planing to represent the Jack, 777, or if you attempt to represent the FD, remember that with all of these holding we would probably check OTF.

If we have AJ we are checking. If we have 777 we are checking. If we have AK we are checking.

Representing a flush OTT might not work if he has A or K, and is a thinking player, in that he has a re-draw, and he has blockers to our percieved likely holdings.

You have Q?

That is actually a bad board in that PF we were hoping he might have JJ.

I'm checking here. If he bets $80 I fold.

If he bets $40, I ask myself: "What would Ivey do?"

With this opponent, I think trying to rep a J is a mistake. He sounds very level 1, so if he has overpair, he's prob going all the way with it.

I think we check flop here, and only call a silly Cripple Creek sized c-bet ($20 wouldn't surprise me here, and we have to call it). $40 or more, even though it's not quite half pot, is an insta-fold.

hero gets super lucky with this flop. c/f easily to about any size bet except maybe 1/4 pot.

u mean 3bet? although i would also be interested in his cbetting frequency lol

ya, i mean, its an ass spot to find yourself in, but such is the nature of QQ that we often have to play it this way against villains who don't have a particularly wide 3bet range. i agree with ANL.. call pre is fine, c/f unless he bets very small

i also agree with Princess Azula that we have to be careful how we rep a J if we choose to bluff. it would be an elaborate mutli-street bluff. probably c/c flop and then c/r turn, or depending on what the turn card is maybe even c/c turn and shove river or something similar. risky shyt

do we have Q? given villain's post flop tendencies and our image, what do we think about floating here and bluffing any OTT? if we have Q and villain bets 1/2 pot or less OTF i might consider this

since APD posted this, and it's been fairly straightforward so far, i assume something interesting/bizzaro happened?

Call and fold any flop that doesn't have a queen.

Ya I meant 3bet.


And lol. Mostly posted because I havent posted in awhile and this is about the only hand Ive had to give thought to (albeit minimal) in a while. The rest have all been poda lose stuff and robot bets.

Hero- checks because hero is sticking with the plan here.
Villain bets $50
Hero says "That good huh, must be kings."
Villain says I'll show you.
Hero folds
Villains shows KK and says "Did you have an Ace or something?"
"Nope just a PP"

Yeah pretty SF spot, just curious on what the consesus was here and if anyone is 4betting pre or floating flop (or c/r'ing). Ez Game I guess. Hopefully I have something more interesting in the future.

you messed up the hand by saying what you said. you should have told him that DUH OBV you had an ace sumthing BUUUUT it was ssuited so you like had to call..

Yeah, maybe. I doubt it mattered what I said at all, dude was pretty bad.