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Two pair vs lag and gross turn. Two pair vs lag and gross turn.

01-03-2021 , 10:23 PM
This is a spot where the solver says flip a coin but I feel like even live lags will underbluff this spot.

2/5 $1500 effective.

V is a mediocre lag pro, plays between tag and lag. He splashes a bit too much but is thinking. V is also upstuck, I’ve taken a bunch off him the last few sessions, and he isn’t immune to tilt. Seems slightly agitated right now.

V straddles BU, bad rec limps +1, I $40 A7dd HJ, lag calls BU, heads up to the flop.

Flop: Ah8c7h.

Pot: $90.

I $75, he calls.

Pot: $240.

Turn 4h.

X, $125, call.

River: Tx.

Pot: $490

X, $450, h?
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01-03-2021 , 10:29 PM
I would've c bet smaller and continued ott. I would fold as played.
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01-03-2021 , 10:30 PM
Yea I shouldn’t ever be betting that size on this board apparently. He’s kinda sticky so I exploit sized up but idk if I like it.
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01-03-2021 , 10:42 PM
Why didn't you bet the turn? Especially knowing he's sticky?
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01-03-2021 , 11:32 PM
I feel like 110 get's called just as often as 75. In real life im lazy enough to just bet the standard 40$.

Turn is such a bet.

River is yucky, but he really needs to turn bad pairs into bluffs quite often to call here. We did open the door for that by checking turn, so low frequency call, i guess.



Mediocre, lag, splashes a bit too much, not imune to tilt, slightly agitated. I havent been to a casino in 9+ months, but i'm 95% sure i'm villain.
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01-04-2021 , 02:09 AM
Near the top of our range vs a down swinging tilter, I’m snap calling. We checked turn so this would happen.
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01-04-2021 , 02:43 AM
Once we check turn, most non heart rivers become a straightforward call and lose spot imo

I don’t think V should have worse here in theory w those sizings when the flush hit, but I expect a player type with that background to have worse for value occasionally as well. Like A4s.
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01-04-2021 , 03:26 AM
Check/call turn and check river, V PSB’s the river???? Based on description of V I think I’m calling.
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01-04-2021 , 08:38 AM
a lag takes control when you take your foot off the gas


I'm calling
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01-05-2021 , 01:05 PM
To everyone saying call - do you think villain is value betting a worse hand or bluffing?
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01-05-2021 , 03:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
To everyone saying call - do you think villain is value betting a worse hand or bluffing?
I think he is value betting
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01-05-2021 , 03:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by snowman
I think he is value betting
I don't expect villain to ever have AK/AQ given pre action, maybe but even AJ but if he does I expect him to show it down. As far as value bets go, we beat two combos of A4s.
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01-05-2021 , 03:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sixsevenoff
I don't expect villain to ever have AK/AQ given pre action, maybe but even AJ but if he does I expect him to show it down. As far as value bets go, we beat two combos of A4s.
based on desc of V and fact he button straddled and defended

10 8 10 7 87

87 is my pick
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01-05-2021 , 03:55 PM
You're right, he could have two combos 87s, I missed that. Though I'm not 100% sure he is betting that on the river, OP should know. I don't see T8 or T7 the way the hand played out. He still has three combos of 88, one combo of 77, two combos of A8s, and two combos ATs. I guess it's about a break even call.

EDIT: I don't know what's wrong with me today, I guess I'm just slow. He's probably not betting ATs ott, but I also didn't even mention the flushes he could have. I say fold.
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01-05-2021 , 10:36 PM
raise bigger pre, when you're playing a lag OOP and you check, what do you think he's most likely to do... so bet to keep the pot under control don't hand him over the keys to the card and let him drive and determine what the bet sizes are gonna be on future streets.

I would think he would turn over all non flush hands otr so looks like you're beat this time, if it's not a flush it could be Jh9h and other stuff too. hard to determine in a vacuum without knowing anything about him at all.
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01-06-2021 , 04:29 AM
Fold
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