I used to fold hands like this one. Then I started raising them. This time I called.

V (250) is a regular thinking but losing player. He has limped about 30 percent of his hands and raised AJo UTG.

Hero (covers) should have a tight-aggressive image. However, V remarked on an earlier hand where hero 3bet preflop and checked a KQJ board (hero did not show he had 88).

OTTH

UTG, LJ, and HJ limp. Hero in the CO calls with Ah2h. SB calls. V in BB checks. Six-way.

Flop (10 after rake): Ac2d4s

Checks to hero, who bets 10. LJ and V call.

Turn (37 after rake): 7c

LJ and V check. Hero bets 15. V calls.

River (63 after rake): 8s

V checks. Hero?

What was the remark that V made?

I would have raised pf but a limp is fine I suppose.

I would have bet the same on Flop

I would have sized up on turn to atleast 20 but most likely 25

On river AP I would bet 30 and comfortably fold to a cr....

I like a bet of at least half pot. We are going for value against Ax which could be as high as AJ, since many players do not like to raise that hand on the blinds. If you get c/r it's probably an easy fold.

What would be the reason for checking?

Bet 25 ott ppl limp big aces in these smaller games, get as much value now just in case you have to check it back otr.

As played I don't think it's a slam dunk value bet spot in a limped pot especially vs a potentially wider than normal limper so I would usually b/f here but he might be over valuing a worse two pair hand if I bet small so I'm betting around 45 or 50. I forgot who it was (Bart or Andrew) who said to never go broke in a limped pot (with a weak to medium strength hand of course).

are you seriously that scared of A8 or 56?

just bet 1/2 pot, and if raised big its a pretty easy fold.

You all know that I am an amateur, and my action on the river could be any. My question: How do you range V on the river? He obv re-raises hero's river bet with 35, 44 and 22. With what hands does he call hero's river bet?

Within hand, you are hoping to be called by AJ-A9, A6, A5, A3. Since villain is bb in a limped pot they can hold any of those. Possible AK,AQ too but I think your read discounts those.
There is enough value in what will call but there's also value in betting if he folds in that maybe you get paid off light later on. After all you had the button and could be betting anything.
I think we would have heard from a set or 53 by the turn, so it's really higher two pair and 65 that we've gotta worry about

Betting $25 and folding to a raise.

He calls with most of his two pair and some of his one pair hands and raises with most of his sets and better. Some tight players might even call with their sets.

$25 is small enough that there are more than 50% of combos you beat when called. Any more than that and you are starting to get a little thin for my liking in a bad 1/2 game.

Bet. There's plenty of aces he has here. If he had A4 I think you would have heard from him sooner.

Every Ax hand and every lower 2 pair hand

One more bullet should be fired on the river.

Results

Hero checks. V shows 44. Hero pats himself on the back...until he reads feedback from his friends on 2+2.

Results obviously bias how I could understand the hand. Unbiased by the results, posters better than I are in consensus that hero should bet the river and fold to a re-reraise.

Preflop, V raises with AJ+ and checks all the other aces and relevant hands. On the river, he doesn’t have the bottom or near-bottom two-pair or AJ-AK. On the flop, he calls AT-A2 and his straight draws, and folds 72, 74, 78, 82, and 83. He sometimes continues with 56 on the turn. He usually reraises the flop or turn with a made straight. Perhaps he raises also with A4. On the river, my range for V is AT-A2, 44, 22, perhaps 65 and unlikely 53. Assume that after hero’s three bullets, V folds A3, A5-A6. If you take out 35 and 56 of V’s range on the river, hero is ahead 54/46. If you leave in 53 or 65, hero is a 40/60 dog. If you leave in both straights, hero is a 34/66 dog. If you take out A4 and keep in one straight, hero is a 32/68 dog.

Are my possible range for V wrong? Do you always bet with this kind of pot equity? Thanks as always for the helpful feedback.

Results

Hero checks. V shows 44, and hero pats himself on the back...

...until he meets the criticism of his friends on 2+2. Results obviously biased how I could understand the hand. Posters better than I and not biased by the results are in consensus that hero should bet the river and fold to a re-reraise.

Preflop, V raises with AJ+ and checks all the other aces and relevant hands. On the flop, he calls AT-A2 and his straight draws, and folds 72, 74, 78, 82, and 83. On the river, he doesn’t have the bottom or near-bottom two-pair. He sometimes continues with 56 on the turn. He usually reraises the flop or turn with a made straight. On the river, he has only AT-A2, 44, 22, perhaps 65 and unlikely 53. Assume that after hero’s three bullets, V folds A4-A6. If you take out 35 and 56 of V’s range on the river, hero is ahead 54/46. If you leave in 53 or 65, hero is a 40/60 dog. If you leave in both straights, hero is a 34/66 dog.

Is my range of V wrong? Do you always bet with this kind of pot equity? Thanks as always for the helpful feedback.

All kinds of people peel for $10 on the flop in a 1/2 game with bottom pair. Its 1/2. I think your ranges are way off.

I mistakenly left out 42 out of his range, but it’s doubtful V calls 74 or 84 on the flop, even less likely he calls 72 or 82.

You really have no idea lol. At a 1/2 table I would expect 50% to 75% of people with those hands to continue for $10

People don't give much credit to a position bet in a limped pot. Perhaps rightfully so.

I just played a hand where the flop was A45, limped 7 ways, I bet the button $10 and bb called with 65. Unlike your hand I did not flop 2pr or even an ace so it checked down the rest of the way.

It's not about being biased by knowing the results, you can play hands the correct way and lose them just like you can play hands "wrong" and win them but I think you're leaving a lot of money on the table in this spot but that's just me.

We all know that in multiway pots, you need a strong hand to fire 3 bullets. I am usually betting the river, but I can get on board for a tight river check. Not a big deal either way. But more important is our flop and turn sizing, we should be targeting a villain calling range and getting our value from all the draws on the flop/turn.