Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em - 8 players
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UTG: $340.20
UTG+1: $1011.90
Hero (MP1): $418.30
MP2: $142.30
CO: $252.00
BTN: $410.60
SB: $312.00
BB: $400.00

Pre Flop: Hero is MP1 with K A
2 folds, Hero raises to $14, 4 folds, BB calls $10

Flop: ($30.00) T A 8 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20

Turn: ($70.00) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $55, BB raises to $155


What the hell am i supposed to do here? The board is drawy as hell, but at the same time scary as hell .

Ive never seen the villian before but he has a full stack and the type of name a regular would have, so im going to assume he's a decent player who has the ability to semibluff.

Most cowards aren't good enough to bluff here. Probably a good muck.

shove and pray. Way too many combo draws out there.

hahahahahhahahhahaha

yeah shoving is horrendous. i think you have to fold here

Thats a first that ive seen.
What type of name does a fish have?

something thats not clever

If I bet this turn it's because I am happy to get it in or feel like I can safely fold to a c/r.

If I don't feel either of those is true I'm usually checking even though half the deck completes some kind of draw.

looks like a fairly std fold to me

Nemo?

standard fold

Yeah pretty simple fold.

vs. a regular is this a call or shove?

ez fold

If I bet this turn vs an unknow, it's with the intention to bet/fold.

I need to have a strong read (station, spewy, long history as the Kelisitaan's co*k) to bet/call or bet/shove.

Sure, if he is slowplaying a set on the flop on this board oop, he is very bad. But he can have something like T9s, A9s, QJo, 6 7
And not a lot of strong semi-draw (T J ; K J).

Bet/fold the turn vs an unknwow or check behind (and call a lot of river obv) looks fine to me.

at first glance it looks like an eazy fold, but than wtf does he have!! lol,, A9?!! would he play A9/A10 in bb vs a mp pfr'er? doubt that, and since the board is really drawy it makes a set unlikely so yeah its really a strange line by villan..

so yeah its pretty close but I give unknowns the benefit of the doubt here but look at them closely for any more similar weird lines.

I completely agree FR wtf constanza you know this dude has the nuts 80% of the time, and some delay gays turn draw semibluff the other 80% =)

Sorry but I never fold this..unknowns do STUPID ****...here is one of MANY examples from last night:

PokerStars Game #19101188529: Hold'em No Limit ($3/$6) - 2008/07/25 - 20:16:02 (ET)
Table 'Hedda' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: treysfull21 ($633 in chips)
Seat 2: secr23 ($597 in chips)
Seat 3: Bora999 ($93 in chips)
Seat 4: 79curly79 ($228.30 in chips)
Seat 5: Cuzco ($228 in chips)
Seat 6: Kelisitaan ($975.75 in chips)
Seat 7: LuV222PoKHeR ($1215.65 in chips)
Seat 8: lassemand ($1016.55 in chips)
Seat 9: re_all_in ($917.35 in chips)
Cuzco: posts small blind $3
Kelisitaan: posts big blind $6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Kelisitaan [Ah As]
LuV222PoKHeR: folds
lassemand: raises $12 to $18
re_all_in: raises $12 to $30
treysfull21: folds
secr23: folds
Bora999: folds
79curly79: folds
Cuzco: folds
Kelisitaan: raises $120 to $150
lassemand: calls $132
re_all_in: calls $120
*** FLOP *** [5s 4c 7c]
Kelisitaan: bets $300
lassemand: folds
re_all_in: calls $300
*** TURN *** [5s 4c 7c] [3h]
Kelisitaan: bets $525.75 and is all-in
re_all_in: calls $467.35 and is all-in
Uncalled bet ($58.40) returned to Kelisitaan
*** RIVER *** [5s 4c 7c 3h] [Ks]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Kelisitaan: shows [Ah As] (a pair of Aces)
re_all_in: shows [Th Tc] (a pair of Tens)
Kelisitaan collected $1984.70 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $1987.70 | Rake $3
Board [5s 4c 7c 3h Ks]
Seat 1: treysfull21 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: secr23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Bora999 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: 79curly79 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Cuzco (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: Kelisitaan (big blind) showed [Ah As] and won ($1984.70) with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: LuV222PoKHeR folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: lassemand folded on the Flop
Seat 9: re_all_in showed [Th Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens

Summary: folding TPTK to an unknown, unless he's extrodionary nitty or something, is a huge leak

you would have lost if you had TPTK here (when the money went in obviously)

It generally has aa in it.