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Two fish on two hooks but the catch is heavy. Two fish on two hooks but the catch is heavy.

09-26-2023 , 05:04 AM
1/3 NLHE 9-handed.

Hero has been at the table an hour and only played one hand where he had AK and took a high variance line against a weak PP that called down on a runout like J-3-2-5-Q and the guy hung on with 99. 250$ SB.

V1 - Unknown woman. Very passive. Picks her hands pre VPIPing about 20% but checking and calling is her go-to. If she bets its thick value. Has been on a heater. Covers. BB.

V2 - Unknown man. Also very passive. VPIPing about the same as V1. Just bleeding down. 600ish HJ.

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MP limps, V2 limps, folds to Hero who sees J J in SB and opens to 20 (table has been very sticky and passive pre so I size up, usually I'd go 15 here), V1 calls, MP calls, V2 calls. 4-ways.

Flop 80 - 9 8 5

Hero bets 30, V1 calls, MP folds, V2 says "Yeaaaaah I guess I'll peel one this time" and calls.

Turn 170 (200 back) - 9

Hero checks, V1 checks, V2 bets 65, Hero?
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09-26-2023 , 08:54 AM
Thats a really nutted thing to say. He has all the AA, KK, QQ, 99,88,55,98s,76s. 24ish combos. Maybe has 2 combos of A9s or some other suited cards with a 9. Has all the 10Js. 1010. That is 8 combos there. Need to find a couple more to continue profitably I think with the way opponent is described. Vs bad passive players who have a million hands that can beat me, me playing OOP, and then say something like that suggesting he is close to the top of his range. I probably just fold it say something about AK never gets there, did you bluff me? and move on.
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09-26-2023 , 11:36 AM
I like getting in 10%+ of my stack preflop if I'm often going to get into commitment spots postflop (which we mostly will at this stack size with standard largish raises getting called), so I'd go $25+ preflop (especially with this vulnerable a hand, especially OOP, especially at a sticky table).

SPR is not even 3, so not exactly a lot of play left postflop. We haz an overpair on a somewhat drawy board but quite multiway where there are lots of ways we're beat. I mean, I'm assuming we didn't expect so multiway, but I think we just have to reduce everyone's IO so much more preflop if we're going to get into these situations. Anyways, I probably mostly sigh bet enough to get it in on a safe turn (perhaps thinking of making an incredibly exploitable hero fold if the wrong person wants to play for stacks ASAP). I don't like anything we do at this point, including our small bet offering great odds when we'll only have a ~PSB left for the turn (I mean, we're kinda committed, no?). If committed, commit, imo.

As played, I dunno, I think I'm ok with check/folding this card against these players.

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09-26-2023 , 12:31 PM
Hand is played fine preflop/flop and turn check is good. Now this is a close spot, BB shouldn't worry you too much as she didn't bet turn when you checked; however either one of these players can easily have 9x/76/sets so you can probably let this go. Apart from 9x and maybe some 87 type hands, what do you think calls the flop?
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09-26-2023 , 11:28 PM
OK thanks. Results:
Spoiler:
Hero thinks there's nothing here he beats as he blocks JT, hence the x/eval OTT. Hero decides to fold. BB calls. River is an offsuit 7. Goes x, x. BB has 78o and HJ has A8o. So I folded the best hand.
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09-26-2023 , 11:29 PM
late to the party but look at his turn size lol
if he bets like 120+ we can talk about u having a pure bluff catcher but not vs 1/3
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09-27-2023 , 12:02 AM
Remember fundamentals... You're supposed to call a lot facing small bets.
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09-29-2023 , 11:43 AM
Saw the results, but I would go $20 or check on flop, possibly check call or check raise depending on sizing and where the bets come from.

On the turn I would call. The bet is small and turns when checked to are extremely over-stabbed by fish even if it makes no sense.

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Originally Posted by larry the legend
Thats a really nutted thing to say. He has all the AA, KK, QQ, 99,88,55,98s,76s. 24ish combos. Maybe has 2 combos of A9s or some other suited cards with a 9. Has all the 10Js. 1010. That is 8 combos there. Need to find a couple more to continue profitably I think with the way opponent is described. Vs bad passive players who have a million hands that can beat me, me playing OOP, and then say something like that suggesting he is close to the top of his range. I probably just fold it say something about AK never gets there, did you bluff me? and move on.
He overlimped and called. Have I seen a player show up with QQ+ here? Yeah, but extremely rarely. You can basically assume he never has QQ+.

Speech play really doesn't reveal much. Could be nutted, could be nothing.
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