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10-15-2023 , 07:45 AM
1/2. K8s in late position is the bottom of my range. I both hands last night.

First hand: hero just sat down and has no reads. Stacks are around 250, and hero covers. One limper. Hero with K8s in the CO? Hero folds.

Second hand: 4 limpers (200-350 ) to hero (covers) on the button with Kc8c. Hero raises to 15. I’ll post results later.
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10-15-2023 , 09:49 AM
1. All options are OK here, I probably fold more often than not.

2. Again I don't think it's a big deal either way, but overlimping feels best.

Unopened this is a straightforward raise from both cutoff and button, not that you get that situation all that often in LLSNL.
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10-15-2023 , 10:21 AM
Hand 1 raise all day. Hand 2 call,fold,raise at some frequency but mostly not raising
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10-15-2023 , 11:59 AM
Hand 1 is between fold and raise. Fold if this seems like a tight passive player or table.
Hand 2 I would limp the suited king on the button multiway. Hard to raise enough to get it heads-up against a dominated range.
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10-15-2023 , 01:07 PM
Hand 1 I would iso. Hand 2 overlimp probably.

What is your normal raise size in 1/2 with no limpers? 15 seems a little small with with 4 limpers, but my threshold for iso worthy hands would be higher after 4 limps.
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10-15-2023 , 09:00 PM
1. Early on in a session probably just fold against randoms. Don't need to force this yet.
2. (Assuming this is later in the session and you have a feel on dynamics) Raise sometimes, fold most times, and limp almost never.
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10-15-2023 , 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by billyf111
1. Early on in a session probably just fold against randoms. Don't need to force this yet.
2. (Assuming this is later in the session and you have a feel on dynamics) Raise sometimes, fold most times, and limp almost never.
Open limping is bad. Limping behind is not always bad.
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10-15-2023 , 10:19 PM
I'd much prefer raising the first hand as opposed to the second, but don't mind folding both either unless there are any particularly bad players that will play in the pot.
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10-16-2023 , 04:32 PM
Results of second hand:

Hero raised to 15. Vs all folded.
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10-16-2023 , 04:34 PM
Do people who raise the first hand but fold the second base their decision on the number of limpers--that is, one limper, raise with K8s; four limpers, fold?

Last edited by adonson; 10-16-2023 at 04:41 PM.
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10-16-2023 , 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark
Hand 1 I would iso. Hand 2 overlimp probably.

What is your normal raise size in 1/2 with no limpers? 15 seems a little small with with 4 limpers, but my threshold for iso worthy hands would be higher after 4 limps.
Usually 10, on that table, everyone was opening to 7.
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10-16-2023 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mlark
Open limping is bad. Limping behind is not always bad.
Doesn't calling any limps fork your range, putting you at an informational disadvantage? When you overlimp, anyone paying attention knows you are at the bottom of your range.
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10-16-2023 , 08:58 PM
Position puts you at an information advantage thru the hand.
Agreed it's not like you're gonna be able to rep a big pocket pair but beyond that no one will know what speculative holding you limped in with
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10-17-2023 , 09:48 AM
Folding hand 1 is fine. It comes down to your style and if you prefer to be more loose aggressive or more TAG which is usually enough to beat a 1/2 game. Have to also realize a lot more people l/c hands like KJ, KQ and even KA in 1/2 so if you raise and they call a king high flop, I wouldn't be bet/bet/betting I would wanna free street at least.

Raising hand 2 is fine too.

I wouldn't worry about people noticing things or even putting you on a range in 1/2 since they're not really paying attention, not to mention the players pool is so huge that you're always sitting with different people. When you move up to 2/5 and beyond, you start to play with the same people all the time (not that they're that much better opponents by any means but they're alil more attentive).
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