Have a couple hands I would like help on understanding bluffcatching.

Hand 1

Hero BB has 520$
V1 covers and is in MP
V2 has 335$ and is in SB

Hero's image is probably that of fun gambler, been winning a bit and is casual young guy. V1 is older man that reeks of dope and has been caught check raising and over valuing hands...FPS in Hero's opinion (bet/called a 3bet preflop OOP with JJ and then check raised a 8-6-3 two tone flop into AA and put stacks in on a blank runout losing 500$). V2 just sat down and I've never seen him before and looks like marilyn manson wearing black everything and tattoos and such. Hasn't been very active.

Action

BTN straddles to 6, V2 calls SB, Hero bets 20 with Qd Qs from BB, folds to V1 who calls, folds to BTN who also folds, V2 back raises to 65, (would like advice on this spot), Hero just calls, V1 also calls. V1 had not been to active preflop so I felt any 4-bet from him would be KK+ and I could safely fold. Still alarm bells were going off.

Flop Jd Td Tc (we hold the Qd)

With about 200 in the pot V2 leads 45, (thought about raising here? your thoughts?), hero looks at V1 and doesn't like him behind but decides he looks like he might fold, my thought process was he has a lot of tens in his range and if he raised I could just fold. Hero calls the 45, V1 folds.

Turn Jd Td Tc 6h

Seems like a safe card and now V2 is getting close to committed I thought. V2 has 225$ and the pot is almost 300$. V2 bets 100 committing himself. Hero thinks again and just calls?

River Jd Td Tc 6h 8d

V2 jams all in for 125 total into a pot of almost 500, hero?

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Hand 2

I'm under the gun and haven't played a hand in almost an hour or more and not sure if anyone has noticed, I haven't had any good cards but my mental game is still good and I'm chatting with the waitresses and having fun. I get AsJh and open to 10.

Five people call !!! including V3 in LJ who has 419$ to start the hand, I have about 500$ everyone else has about the same.

Flop comes Ad Qh 6h

SB checks BB checks I cbet 20 into a pot of 60 (is this dumb?) only V3 calls

<sidenote V3 description: V3 was in his 50s white guy and known to the casino staff, he had been seen bluffing once before but with bluffcatcher hands ie. not total air (AQos on a board like A-J-8-J) he was out of position against a good player that can put people in spots and he just check raised all in with his AQ and then when the good player folded he showed the Q but there was a show one show all rule imposed on him and the dealer flipped his A which made him angry. It was strange because it was hard to tell whether he thought he had the best hand or not, we never saw what the other guy had but it sounded like AK because he said 'you bluffed me', other than these sudden blast it in moments he's been very passive>

Turn Ad Qh 6h 7c

I bet 75 into 100, V3 raises all-in for 389 total, what should I do? (I have the Jh)

Hand 1. Flop. Paired boards scare me. I'm done. I might c-bet a small feeler bet as you did. Turn I fold. River you are getting 4-1, but I fold w/a pair showing.

Hand 2. Flop. I bet $35-$40. Turn I bet same $75 and fold.

Hand 1: jam pre. As played, call.

Hand 2: flop is fine. you should be checking turn. As played, probably a fold. Possibly break even EV as a call, depending on V.

H1:

I limp in but that's me.

Facing a limp/reraise from the first limper, I treat this as KK+ until proven otherwise, especially from a guy who hasn't been active. So I lean to a nit fold here as a default. Yeah, we haz QQ and haz position, but we're getting horrendous IO; obviously not going to hate on a call/evaluate postflop line, but against a huge percentage of players it is exactly what it looks like.

And I'd again fold the flop. You'd think AK/etc. would more hammer the flop for FE, not bet a very enticing 1/4 PSB. Meanwhile a couple of the hands we were ahead of just got there.

Kinda ditto for turn and river.

I mean obviously QQ vs an overpair is going to be a *bit* of a cooler, but I think in general we should be getting away from our hand against ABC face up players as early as possible. My session from last week, I hadn't won a single pot in my 4 hours at the table and I finally look down at QQ in the BB; I folded before the action got to me. You have to be able to do that against the right opponents.

Gthey'renotplayingbackatyou,imoG

H2:

I fold preflop but that's where I draw the line on Ax.

Are we surprised that we got 5 callers to a lol $10 raise in a 1/3 NL game? This would be a completely standard result at pretty much any normal 1/3 NL table I've played at. I'd much sooner limp/evaluate than bloat a pot OOP with a hand that has this poor of RIO.

An SPR of ~8 against most. Having given the world awesum IO of 55+:1, we absolutely don't want to work towards playing a big pot. There are some draws. Honestly, I'm not great in these spots. I think I would often check/evaluate. Although I don't hate a bet, although I'm not really sure about sizing. I'm guessing in these spots we're supposed to be betting small this multiway OOP, and that does keep the pot marginally under control, so I think I'm cool with it. Although another part of me wants to bet larger and then fold to aggression. But I think keeping the pot small as possible at this point is fine, so a small bet (or check) accomplishes that best.

Against someone who can bluff or overvalue, I would typically check to him on the turn. If it checks thru, I'm cool with that as it controls the pot size for our very marginal hand. Meanwhile we widen his range (he has a much stronger hand calling/raising our bet than he does betting if we check to him) and mostly get to the river without being put in a crap spot. If we are going to bet large to protect against the draws, then I think we just have to fold facing the raise. Also keep in mind that this guy looks like he may have called the flop bet (as well as the preflop raise) with lots to still react behind him, which is strong.

GcluelessNLnoobG

You have both honour and discipline sensei

Honestly felt like the poker gods were testing me that day. But I felt it was the right play given the information I had (the cold 3bettor courtesy showed AA after the initial raiser folded; results oriented, meh, I don't think so given the exact configuration). Ditto for this case (although I don't have the benefit of any you-had-to-be-there vibes that you may have had).

Although keep in mind the only reason I feel I win at my game at the rate I do is due to me folding way more than anyone else in every given situation. Which also means I incorrectly fold winners now and again, but I have to take the good with the bad.

Gclueless(over?)foldingnoobG