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04-02-2024 , 03:21 AM
1/3 NLHE 9 handed.

V - Massive whale. Bought in multiple times before running deep. Minclicks pre and post a lot. Donk leads a lot post. Bets A LOT when checked to. Once he donks he just keeps betting with any equity. Seems clueless. Shows up with all kinds of hands. Rarely has value or premium. VPIP around 50%, PFR around 35%, 3-betting about 15%, always a minclick. He's minclicked people with JTo and 98o this session. He'll limp 3$ with anything remotely suited or connected. All the grinders are on the transfer list to come play our table and people are offering me 20$ here and there to have my seat two to the right of V. Covers. BB.

Illustrative HH: V opens 30 cold UTG, TAG in CO to 90, V 4-bets to 250, TAG calls. Flop T-3-2ssd. V bets 30, TAG to 150, V jams for TAGs remaining 500, TAG calls, V shows T3s and runout bricks.

HH w/ Hero (advice on river appreciated): V straddles UTG to 6, folds to H in SB who pops to 25 with red 88, BB folds, V calls. HU OOP. Flop As-Qs-7d. H leads 20, V calls. Turn 3c check check. River Td. H tries block sizing for 30 into pot of 90, V calls showing JTo and wins.

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H - Hero's been card dead for about 1.5 hours before this hand plays out. 440$. BTN.

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Folds to CO loose passive who's been losing and getting a bit annoyed who opens to 15, H sees Q Q on BTN and glances left to see V grabbing chips and flats 15, SB loose passive on 150$ stack calls 15, V minclicks to 30, CO calls, H backraises to 130, SB folds, V calls, CO curses his bad luck and folds. HU IP.

Flop 305 (310 back) - K 7 5

V donks 30, H calls

Turn 365 (280 back) - T

V leads 100, Hero?
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04-02-2024 , 04:23 AM
Click call 3 times.
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04-02-2024 , 09:40 AM
All in pre IMO
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04-02-2024 , 11:02 AM
Call or jam turn dependent upon whether or not this guy has any fold function at all, and whether or not he's likely to think hero is too aggro / bluffy. Bigger fold button = call. Hero image $h1ttier = jam.

If hero's been card dead and mostly folding, and if we think V might have noticed, I'd probably just call.

I don't mind the flat call IP, going to the river with a super low SPR. Can't imagine this guy is ever folding a K or T here, no matter when you stick it in.

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04-02-2024 , 03:08 PM
obviously just call
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04-03-2024 , 02:17 AM
Can I ask, say you guys call turn and river is an A... are you guys calling an AI with an SPR of 0.3 or so?

Result:
Spoiler:
I just spazz jammed as per my usual. I do this for some reason on later streets when SPR gets lower I just decide to go with it. V tank calls. River is a K and we're good!
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04-03-2024 , 02:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Can I ask, say you guys call turn and river is an A... are you guys calling an AI with an SPR of 0.3 or so?

Result:
Spoiler:
I just spazz jammed as per my usual. I do this for some reason on later streets when SPR gets lower I just decide to go with it. V tank calls. River is a K and we're good!
call literally every river lol
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04-03-2024 , 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Can I ask, say you guys call turn and river is an A... are you guys calling an AI with an SPR of 0.3 or so?
With this sort of whale there is nothing that would make me fold. If he has an ace it's just random bad luck. I would be more worried if the board paired someplace but since villain can be betting anything that still is not going to make me fold.
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04-03-2024 , 05:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stupidbanana
Can I ask, say you guys call turn and river is an A... are you guys calling an AI with an SPR of 0.3 or so?

Result:
Spoiler:
I just spazz jammed as per my usual. I do this for some reason on later streets when SPR gets lower I just decide to go with it. V tank calls. River is a K and we're good!
I feel like we need a more descriptive term than simply calling guys like this whales. This guy isn't just splashy. He's throwing a party. And not just any party. This is the event of the season, if not the year. It's the mother of all high school keggers.

I can find a fold sometimes if a whale just keeps barreling as the board just keeps getting worse for our hand. He can't always not ever have it. Sometimes he will have it, if only by dumb luck.

This guy could have 75o for 2P on the flop, or AT and make 2P on the river, as easily as he could show up with QJo for a rivered straight, or 72. His range is literally any two cards, and he would probably take the same line with his entire range.

This is why I don't mind jamming strong hands against this type of V. Against most other opponents, it's an over-play, but this guy doesn't appear to even know what a fold button is, much less have one or know where to find it. And I'd rather get it in good on the flop or turn than pay off an over-bet jam when he spikes a miracle A on the river.

Even if there's a 2% chance he'll fold instead of calling a jam with a worse hand, I'll live with myself more easily when I jam and he folds than if I just flat call, he sucks out, and I pay him off. That will make me want to lay down in traffic.

The upside is that if he does have any fold button at all, he's going to make some bad folds when we amp up the aggression. If this guy's range is ATC, he could have K2, and level himself into folding, telling himself we have AA, TT, or a better KX.

It can't be terrible to give this guy a reason to think twice before calling our pre-flop back-raise over his dumb-a$$ min-click, and donking into us for 10% pot on a K-rag-rag rainbow board with a weak-a$$ top pair.

If he wants to be a whale, we should act like a giant squid, and f**k him up with all the tentacles in our game. Giant squid don't sit back, they attack. This guy wants action. Let's show him what action really is.

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