1/3 game earlier tonight

V1: Early 30's white guy, here from out of town (couple hours drive) with his friend in the seat next to him. The friend seems to be the one more into poker, but both are fairly loose PF and weak-passive post flop. About 350.

V2: Early 30's Hispanic guy. He's a regular, OK player. Nearly always c-bets with the PF lead, generally from 2/3 to pot sized bets. Covers.

Hero: Mid 20's white guy. Regular, tight image. Pretty much never caught bluffing.

Preflop:

EP limps
V1 limps
Hero limps in the cutoff with 10 8
V2 in SB makes it 17
BB folds
EP folds
V1 calls
Hero calls

Flop: A 9 8 (pot after rake: 52)

V2 bets 35
V1 calls
Hero calls

I'm looking to see the turn and evaluate, but probably steal. There are a lot of cards that help my showdown potential, and a lot of cards that could be scary for V2. The fact that he has two callers on this board and he is OOP should give be enough to slow him down, and his hand will be difficult to play. From past hands, I think V1 has a high chance of finding a fold to a reasonable-sized turn bet.

Turn: A 9 8 Q (pot after rake: 157)

V2 checks
V1 checks
Hero ???

Hero's stack size is 278.

1. Please critique my flop thought process and play.
2. As played, what do you do on the turn?

Thanks

If you bet the turn, JT seems like the only reasonable holding based on your line. If your reads indicate betting has strong FE, bet. If called, river would be AI.

3-way, I'd check back the turn; would have folded pre and on the flop. I disagree there are a lot of turn cards that help your SD value.

Raise preflop, fold flop. A lot of the cards that look scary to v2 will help v1. Once you get this specific turn and it checks to you, you have to rep jt, so bet and set up a river jam.

Raising T8s from the CO over 2 limpers seems way too loose if you aren't a total crusher of the game. I'd likely fold.

I could see the merit in a float HU, but 3 way on a wet board? I'm folding. Even HU is questionable despite his cbet tendencies if this player has any understanding of position since he raised from the SB. It seems like he would grasp position if he's a decent player as you say.

As played, I'm checking back turn and betting any club, J, or 8 on river if checked to me. Probably raising a bet from the pfr if an 8 appears. Perhaps a club too, as a bluff, if he does understand position as KQs should be the only flush in his range in that case.

what does eveyone think of always overlimping suited one-gapers but always raising suited connectors in LP?

AP, i fold to v's raise pre also i would strongly consider folding flop villans range is weighed heavily toward ax imo

OTT, given villan 1 most likely is Ax, do you think he will fold a large % of the time? if yes then bet 2/3 pot.

I would limp with this hand preflop but fold to the raise from V1. I would also fold the flop, however it sounds like you called to bluff the turn so if that was your plan then do it. I don't necessarily agree with the bluff though... What do you put the villain on to try the bluff with? Do you put main villain on a pocket pair? Have you seen villain continue betting turn or check when they are weak? The other villain in the hand, you mention he is weak passive. What would he be calling the flop with? He must have a piece of the board or be on a draw. Can he fold two pairs? Probably not if he's weak. He won't fold his straight but could he maybe fold a single pair?

I would not float the flop to bluff two players on the turn. The board has a ton of draws and Ax hands that won't fold. You want to hit a big draw with suited one-gappers when you limp/call in LP. Auto-fold.

Check turn for the same reasons as above. You have about zero equity against two players. Take a free shot to bink an 8. I don't see V1 folding to a bluff at all.

Pre is meh.

You are a ~54:1 dog to flop a str8 or flush with one-gappers. You are ~48.5:1 to flop 2 pair. A 10 & 8 on the flop [your 2 pair] puts str8 draws out there.
8:1 dog to flop a flush draw that includes those combos which flop a str8 and those which flop a str8 and flush draw.

How happy are we when we flop a str8 with T8s on a QJ9r flop?

You are 8.2:1 to flop a 4 card flush draw that doesn't include the str8 makin' combos.

You are a 46:1 dog to flop a str8 or flush with SCs.
We are 8:1 dog to flop either a 4 flush or OESD that includes those flops that give us a flopped str8 or 4 flush.

Once we do flop a draw, we need to talk about IO & RIO with our flopped ten high flush, low ended flopped str8, or flush draw.

I don't know that you have to be a "total crusher" to raise pre with T8 in LP as cannabusto stated, however, I do believe you need to have a winning image, which garners fear/respect from your opponents.

Yes, I misspoke. I meant to say you would need to be a crusher to limp/call with T8s against a SB raise from a decent player. Opening is good and iso'ing is fine, especially with a winning image.

If you're betting turn and don't want to realize your equity for free, then there is some immediate FE but could will require 2 barrels to put the proper pressure on V2 (I think V1 is folding a lot) and you'll be a bit low on chips.
V2 could be limping any Ax, but might be prepared to fold it pretty quickly as well. I don't think either has you exactly on JT, it's a bit tricky with the FD out there that makes them want to hero off, but I think your perceived outs when they call include clubs in addition to 8TJ which could be dirty but certainly bet if ck to on riv with .3 pot bet behind. I'd stab and feel ok about it. If V1 calls I'd be more concerned as 1-3 guys likes to play AK this way.

raise pre