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05-27-2010 , 02:37 AM

badbeatinc88

journeyman

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 218

Sickest beat yet... how do you cope...
5/5/10 NL Live game.

Villian 1: new comer LAG-stack of 946
Villian 2: " one of the top 5 local players" stack of 2300
Hero is in BB with stack of 1900ish

Utg: Fold
Utg+1 fold
Villian 1: limps in for 5
Mp2: folds
Mp3 limps in for 5
Villian 2 Raises to 25
c/o calls 25
button calls 25
sb Folds
Hero: Shows (AcAh) raises to 115
Villian 1 Calls 110
Mp3 fold
Villian 2 Calls 110
Everyone else folds

FLOP (Qd7d9S)
Hero checks
Villian 1 checks
Villian 2 Checks

TURN 3s (Qd7d9s3s)
Hero Bets ????
ill post results after....

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05-27-2010 , 02:42 AM

RollinHand

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 9,382

Why are you checking the flop?
Do you not like money? :-/

It's dangerous to give free cards like that, someone might go ahead and river a backdoor flush on ya.

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05-27-2010 , 03:13 AM

Subzero_Wins

adept

Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 979

3-bet more PF and bet the flop. Giving a free card on this board is terrible and you want to be able to bet/bet/bet and get all the money in (and if you don't then that just shows how bad your preflop size is).

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05-27-2010 , 06:57 AM

MightyNuts

journeyman

Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 391

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Originally Posted by Subzero_Wins

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05-27-2010 , 07:35 AM

Mergatroid

centurion

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 173

Bet the flop, take it down, pray a villian does not have QQ.

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05-27-2010 , 10:03 AM

DeeKay

grinder

Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 597

"Sickest Beat Yet!!111!!"

I'm guessing if you make it $140 PF and pot the flop you may not get hit with the "Sickest Beat Yet".

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05-27-2010 , 10:34 AM

Lime n Soda

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 704

never ever check this flop.

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05-27-2010 , 10:50 AM

Hendricks433

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,938

Dont start a thread with sickest beat yet. 3bet more PF no way the 2nd guy is folding most hands after the other guy calls with it being so small.

How the f*** do you check the flop? Dont try and be so fancy or if your scared money play lower stakes.

Would be hilarious if one of them had 33.

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05-27-2010 , 12:48 PM

Man of Means

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 5,136

wait, did you show your aces preflop?
bet flop pls.

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05-27-2010 , 01:33 PM

#10

steamypile

adept

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 916

I don't know how the rest of this hand goes, but honestly the sickest beat is how you've played it so far. The weak 3bet PF is enticing too many hands to come along with great odds, and the flop check is terrible. You can't 3 bet then try to pot control or get sneaky, esp in position. Would you check behind bluffs or weaker hands? Would you check behind sets and overpairs? Bet bet bet.

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05-27-2010 , 02:32 PM

#11

gmack

centurion

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 194

Agree with steamypile. There is $92 pre before you act so calling the $25 makes $112 in the pot, plus you are OOP. Raising here should be at least $150.

Our mistake here comes on the flop by not betting. Qd7d9s has a TON of draws: any diamond, any K/J/T/8/6 hurts our hand AND if somebody called pre w/ KQ/AQ/QT type hand, and the turn is a Q, I am going to hate life. Plus I don't want to give a 55-22 a chance to turn a 2 outer against me for free.

On a Q27r board, I can see you making an argument for checking, but on a board that wet with multiple villains, you MUST bet.

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05-27-2010 , 03:23 PM

#12

Hendricks433

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 4,938

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Originally Posted by steamypile

Were in the BB and OOP but either way we cant ever check this especially after f'ing up the 3-bet size.

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05-27-2010 , 03:25 PM

#13

steamypile

adept

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 916

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Originally Posted by Hendricks433

Were in the BB and OOP but either way we cant ever check this especially after f'ing up the 3-bet size.

Ahh yeah, just noticed. Even more reason to 3bet bigger.

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05-28-2010 , 01:25 AM

#14

skydiver8

grinder

Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 589

dear lord in heaven, why are you checking the flop? You want to bet not only for value, but to give any drawing hands the WRONG odds to call.

Won't go into the weak 3-bet sizing preflop, it's been covered, but this board is terrible to let anyone see a free card.

As played (*cough*) I'd make a 3/4 to pot sized bet on the turn and pray. *sigh*

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05-29-2010 , 03:02 AM

#15

doc watson

journeyman

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 334

why do you say you´ll post the result later? you already stated it with your first 3 words in the post.

Just bet the fagging flop already. How the hell can you not bet it????

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05-29-2010 , 05:57 AM

#16

ledoutwbottomset

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,439

I make it 155 pre, and bet flop 3/4 how dare you say sickest beat when you played to the hand like a complete jagaloon

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05-29-2010 , 05:59 AM

#17

ledoutwbottomset

banned

Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 1,439

once again what the hell were you thinking checking flop, you were the pf agressor, im putting you on 3 queens right now, you sure you had aces lol

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