Villain in this hand seems pretty straightforward of a player and is pretty loose. He's played most of his hands at this point, doesn't raise many hands. He isn't the type that calls big bets with gutshots etc.

Hero's image is that of a really tight player, been card dead up until this point.

Blinds are .25/.50
Stacks are:

Hero: ~$40 (~80bb)

Villain has me covered, but his stack is pretty big probably around ~$90 or so (~180 bb), I thought that his big stack may make him play more loosely/call more light.

I was dealt TT on the SB. Table limps through then Villain who's on the BTN raises to $4.50.
I 3bet it to $12 for value, table folds until BTN who calls.
Flop comes AQ3 rainbow. What would 2+2 do here?

Was it correct to 3bet? I think I could've made it a bit bigger.

It's almost always better to ship your stack than commit more than a quarter of it.

When you're out of position, as you are here, change "almost always" to "always".

Honestly, I don't think it's too nitty to fold TT here to a raise if Villain is generally passive. You don't have odds to setmine (the raise is >10% of your stack). But if you're going to play, shove PF.

Shoving PF is nto a good play with those stack sizes.
You are risking 40 to win 4.5 plus some blinds, and villains calling range has you crushed.
3betting to a normal bet size is of course fine, if you call the majority
of the limpers will probably call, so you would have to play multiway pot with TT oop.

On the flop i would just c/f it. Villain should have a lot of Ax combos
in his range, and this is not the board where he would auto bluff if you check
to him. And as he expect you to cbet this board air, you porb. wont get Qx to fold if you bet.

dont like the 3bet pre would rather just flat unless you think he can spaz pre
if you 3bet make it larger so you can just ship flop

as played i just turn hand into bluff and bet


your not full stacked he would of shipped AK pre and A,Q on board means less combos he could have of like AQ.

@malcom they prob think hero never has air and this villain could of called pre with KT, TJ its just silly live game
cant be to terrible cbet Ax board right?

it's definately not terrible to turn TT into a bluff here.
I would cbet with air in this spot, but with TT this seems to be a
"everything better calls, everything worse" folds spot, though it is def.
not a bad thing to fold out hands that have good equity vs TT like JT and
KT.

im sorry am i missing something OP, this isn't "Really gross" IMO. rather a standard flop for TT in poker.

With stack sizes flat. Don't 3 bet unless its a 3 bet shove any flop spot. Flop is horrible. I check fold it. But I don't have 25% of my stack in ever.

If I want to commit 25% of my stack or $12 here I flat $4.50 pre and bet 8 on any flop and try that plan. I usually think about how much I can and will invest in a hand in certain situations. And the decide where I can take down pots on what streets. This is one of those situations.

It's a live game against a loose-passive villain. What do you think he's calling a huge 4-bet shove with besides AA or KK? Maybe QQ - maybe.

If our read on Villain is that he's positionally aware, his raising range OTB is probably >25% of hands. If he only calls the shove with AA-QQ, that's <10% of his raising range, so shoving is +EV.

If he's like most donks and doesn't play position, I fold here, b/c his raising range is much narrower and has TT crushed.

How is it fine? A normal 3-bet size is a quarter of Hero's stack. There's no way you should be putting that much in OOP without shoving.

I don't mind flatting to setmine if we'll get 4-5 callers behind us, but the problem with being right behind the raiser is you can never be sure, and any time it doesn't pan out you just threw away 10% of your stack.

As played, putting another dime in this pot post-flop is pure spew IMO.

Vs such a tight calling range it would be much better to shove a hand like
A2o than TT.

Easy c/f. No need to be a hero. Btw, I'd raise a bit higher preflop if I'm 3-betting. At least $17. Yes the 3-bet was correct IMO. Villain is in steal position so you have a strong hand against his range. If you 3-bet that high, you can probably just shove almost any flop in the dark. As played, the only better hand that can fold is JJ.

b/c flop, jam turn. Does that Rep AK? or 1/2psb flop 1/2psb turn jam river does that rep QQ?

We are putting 45% of our stack in w a 3 bet? Why???? To c/f these flops?

Flat pre! Raise deeper.

I definitely would not have 3bet pre for 3 reasons:

1. Villain is LAP and when LAPs make a rare raise, it's a pretty strong hand.
2. Raising like you did puts in 30% of your stack and TT is going to flop overcards something like 50% of the time.
3. We're not calling a shove (I assume). This is probably the most important point. I wouldn't 3bet 30% of my stack unless I was happily calling a shove.

I have no idea what to do OTF. We have a PSB left and the flop rates to nail villain. We fold out KK and JJ, but I think KK just ships it pre. Don't know if villains calls pre with JJ.

It pretty much comes down to what you think his range is, what he sees your range as, and whether he can call a shove.

It doesn't matter why. We could shove every single flop and the concept of a $17 reraise in this spot would still be absurd.

There's a reason why about six different chapters of TMOP end with the same phrase among their summary bullet points: "Strategic options have non-negative value." It's a fairly critical concept, to put it mildly.

If your 3-bet commits you to shove the flop, then SHOVE PREFLOP. Letting Villain have a free strategic option in this situation is a huge mistake. And if you aren't willing to shove, then either your 3-bet is wrongly sized, or 3-betting is the wrong play.

It's pretty clear to me the latter is the case here.

Why 3-bet 10's against a opponent you think is raising or calling light when you are either:

1. Folding to a 4-bet.

2. Having to play fit-or-fold flop with most of your stack committed.

Granted this is a horrible flop for any pocket that missed, I still don't think it's wise to build a pot OOP with pocket in this scenario.