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03-23-2013 , 10:44 AM
10 handed 1/2 NL game.

Stack: 285
Hole Cards: TT
Middle position.

Pre-flop:

UTG (V1: Middle age, seems like a solid player.) raises to $14/$220.
Fold.
V2 (Middle age, calling station pre, solid post flop) flat calls $14/$370.
Fold.
Hero ? deciding to raise or flat call. Flat call $14 / $285
fold.
Another flat $14/$700 call from V3 (middle age tricky player. Have some history)
fold.
Button shoves $74 -> $59.
SB folds.
BB folds.

Back to V1 initial raiser, who decides to flat (+60),V2 also flats (+60).
Pot is now ~220.

Hero???

Spoiler:
i ended up folding as was not capping the bets. V3 was still behind me. I also didn't feel too strongly about 4betting with TT and didn't want to just flat for +60/260 and then potentially fold on the flop. Cards came down as::

JT474

otf: V1 pushed all-in. V2 and V3 folded.
Button tabled AKo and V1 tabled AQo.
Button took it down. Hero punched himself in the face.

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03-23-2013 , 10:59 AM
Fold move on. It is not a game of what would I have had.
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03-23-2013 , 11:18 AM
As played fold. I fold jj and ak pre here as well, qq is debatable but obviously shipping or raising aa or kk here
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03-23-2013 , 11:36 AM
Easy fold. TT just isn't good enough to hold up multiway in such a big pot.
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03-23-2013 , 12:42 PM
I feel like v3 3bet shoving range here is decently wide because he has $74 and the psr is closing in on 1 preflop. V1 is 4betting AA,KK and likely QQ in this spot because he doesn't want it going multi way. When he flats I think we can range him on AK,AQs,AQo,JJ,1010,99. V2 is a calling station pre, so the overcall is no surprise here, big Aces, suited broadways, 99+. If you were to put in a raise here it would look very strong and will likely fold out all of V1's and V2's range isolating you and the likely wider range of V3. But this is a very high variance and there are certainly better spots but there will be a fair amount of dead money out there. Your line will look super strong and against these villains in this spot I see you finding folds from them a fair amount of the time imo. I don't really like flatting bc it's setmining with such a high % of your stack. Fold is not bad and is probably better than my move but oh well. It's easy to pick that off safely from my couch as opposed to table side so what have you.
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03-23-2013 , 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
If you were to put in a raise here it would look very strong and will likely fold out all of V1's and V2's range isolating you and the likely wider range of V3.
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Originally Posted by Donat3llo
Your line will look super strong and against these villains in this spot I see you finding folds from them a fair amount of the time imo.
This is a $1-2 game.

With close to $200 in the pot already nobody who's already committed $59 is going anywhere, whether you raise, shove or not.

If anything raising/shoving over a short all-in and two callers - after flatting UTG's pf raise - makes your hand look weaker, not stronger. After all, are you flatting AA or KK first time around?

Easy fold IMO.
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03-23-2013 , 01:38 PM
Don't punch yourself in the face, you're being results oriented. You made the right play. You did not have the odds to set mine. Good fold.
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03-23-2013 , 01:43 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Donat3llo
I feel like v3 3bet shoving range here is decently wide because he has $74 and the psr is closing in on 1 preflop. V1 is 4betting AA,KK and likely QQ in this spot because he doesn't want it going multi way. When he flats I think we can range him on AK,AQs,AQo,JJ,1010,99. V2 is a calling station pre, so the overcall is no surprise here, big Aces, suited broadways, 99+. If you were to put in a raise here it would look very strong and will likely fold out all of V1's and V2's range isolating you and the likely wider range of V3. But this is a very high variance and there are certainly better spots but there will be a fair amount of dead money out there. Your line will look super strong and against these villains in this spot I see you finding folds from them a fair amount of the time imo. I don't really like flatting bc it's setmining with such a high % of your stack. Fold is not bad and is probably better than my move but oh well. It's easy to pick that off safely from my couch as opposed to table side so what have you.
The simple fact that V3 is short doesn't necessarily mean that his shoving range is extremely wide. Assuming like KJ/AT as the bottom of his range we are a very small favorite at best.
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