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03-30-2016 , 11:21 PM

Mr. Curious

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Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,194

$2/5 100-300

BB 400 MAAG nut peddler

CO 450 MAWW under bets all of her hands, weird loose preflop (will fold for an orbit and then limp UTG with K4). She also flatted a 20 raise in the SB with AK. I have never seen her raise preflop.

Hero 165 no one has noticed that I have folded every hand

I am playing with a smaller stack to make the SPRs work best for me given 300 is the max buy in

Preflop
Hero has TT on the button

Folds to CO who raises to 15, hero calls, SB folds, bb calls (and gives hero a funny look)

Flop 984 rainbow
Pot 45

BB donks for 40, CO tanks and folds, Hero ?

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03-31-2016 , 01:42 AM

RAHZero

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3-bet PF. You have 30 BBs facing a CO open from the button, TT should be in your 3-bet and stack off range. As played, shove flop. SPR is 3 and you have an overpair facing a donk-bet, which is typically a weak one pair hand that BB won't be able to fold getting over 2:1 after you shove. If you're not going to shove here, then just fold PF as you aren't deep enough to set mine.

Also, reload to the max pre-hand (or preferably find a game that allows you to buyin deeper than 60 BBs).

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03-31-2016 , 02:03 AM

Mr. Curious

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There are no other games.
Against anyone else I 3!, but V never raises, so it seemed better to flat. I think she would stack off with an over pair if I hit my set, else it is a fold preflop

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03-31-2016 , 02:07 AM

RAHZero

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Originally Posted by Mr. Curious

There are no other games.
Against anyone else I 3!, but V never raises, so it seemed better to flat. I think she would stack off with an over pair if I hit my set, else it is a fold preflop

The problem is, you're not deep enough to set-mine here (as you should be looking for 12:1 implied odds when calling a raise and only started the hand with 11x the PF raise). Also, flatting is fine if V truly never raises PF, but how long have you played with her? Even if you've never seen her raise in 2 hours, that's like 50 hands, which means she might never have had an opportunity to raise a CO/BTN in an unopened pot.

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03-31-2016 , 02:20 AM

MK7749

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ur so short why call with TT if you don't get it in as an overpair?

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03-31-2016 , 02:30 AM

MakePokerGreatAgin

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Yeah I agree with RAHZero, this hand really depends on how long you've played with the CO. I like putting in a small iso 3bet here pre unless there is strong evidence that this raise by the CO is truly only monsters

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03-31-2016 , 06:25 AM

AsianNit

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A true nut peddler has your hand beat if they donk bet into a crowd.

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03-31-2016 , 06:49 AM

venice10

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

A true nut peddler has your hand beat if they donk bet into a crowd.

^This. The definition of a calling station is someone who can't fold a potential winning hand. That's what is causing you concern.

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03-31-2016 , 10:12 PM

Mr. Curious

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I thought about this hand today and I think RahZero is right: I should 3! to 40 and if she 4! I can safely fold and if she calls I can narrow her range quite a bit. I am not deep enough to set mine here and it is in my best interest to not give the nut peddler extra odds to call for his set mining.

Or if I am not going to 3!, I should just fold. 3! > fold >>>> call

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03-31-2016 , 10:15 PM

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Mr. Curious

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Originally Posted by AsianNit

A true nut peddler has your hand beat if they donk bet into a crowd.

I folded and the talked him into showing and sure enough, he shows 99 for top set and says "I bet the flop so one of you with an over pair would raise me".

It was very nice of him to reconfirm (a) he is a nut peddler and (b) that he will let me know any time I am beat on the flop

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04-01-2016 , 12:45 AM

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WereBeer

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Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 10,700

Grunch:

Fold pre if villains range is so nutted that you are crushed. Otherwise, ship it.

Flop: shove flop, this is a trivial spot BTW. You are never folding and shouldn't be giving out free cards.

You have 33bb, you need to understand you are playing preflop and maybe the flop, this is a not a 4 street game any more.

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