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09-18-2024 , 01:46 PM

Bellezza

journeyman

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5/5

~$550 effective

CO – Reg-fish, 40-year-old Asian. I see him regularly in the casino, but I’m not convinced he’s a good pro. He seems more like a semi-fish type of player because I’ve seen a lot of questionable plays from him, such as open limping preflop, calling too much preflop with marginal hands like K8s, etc.

CO opens to $20, Hero (BU) re-raises to $80 with T

, CO 4-bets to $180, Hero calls.

Flop($360) J

x x

Turn($360) 5

x x

River($360) 7

CO bets $100, Hero - ?

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09-18-2024 , 02:01 PM

Playbig2000

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Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 12,062

Why did you call the 4bet? If he's a semi-fish type player, these types of players usually only 4bet (and 3bet) with big premium pairs. Have you ever seen him 3bet or 4bet before?

He has Kh and Ah in his range otr and we only have a bluff catcher. Does he bluff? I would just fold here but that's just me (and I would of folded to the 4bet).

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09-18-2024 , 03:08 PM

Telemakus

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Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 530

I don't think you can fold for this price. This is often one of the best flushes that you get to the river with (assuming Ax and Kx stab the flop). I'd expect villain to cbet the flop with Ah/Kh and likely Qh too. You have a bluff catcher of course, but this is a bluff a large potion of the time and he bet less than third pot. I pay this off if he has it.

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09-18-2024 , 03:19 PM

Spanishmoon

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At 550 eff and basically 110 bb, I can find a tight fold even in position here preflop against described V. We're basically setting up a commitment spot at this spr.

As played, I agree with Telemakus that we can't fold at this price on river.

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09-18-2024 , 03:46 PM

Bellezza

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Join Date: Nov 2014 Posts: 203

Hero calls

Spoiler:

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09-18-2024 , 03:54 PM

Playbig2000

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rts

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09-18-2024 , 04:07 PM

Telemakus

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Originally Posted by Bellezza

Hero calls

Spoiler:

LOL

Ok, fine. I'm still paying him off here as we are basically at the top of our range.

Naturally he should be cbetting this hand; when he doesn't our range becomes wider on later streets and we have to call down wider as a result.

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09-18-2024 , 04:08 PM

Franchise804

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Pre is fine but yea if they are a fish folding is okay since 4bets are the nuts most of the time.

Bet small otf to deny equity vs AK-AJ, etc... pot is too big to give a free card.

Snapping otr

All of this assumes they are playing somewhat reasonable...like, we can't call preflop because "villain can be 4betting light" and then fold otr because "population never bluffs here."

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09-19-2024 , 08:01 AM

OmahaDonk

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Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 5,320

Folding pre, I find fish raise much bigger with AK, especially in this wider configuration.

As played I am calling river but not loving it. If he bets 200 I fold.

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