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TT in a 3! pot, against 3 way, on the worst board possible TT in a 3! pot, against 3 way, on the worst board possible

03-31-2013 , 10:55 AM
Table: It's maybe midnight. Friday night. Table is pretty juicy. One reg on my right who's tight, and somewhat passive. Everyone else is sort of fishy in their own separate ways.

Hero: I'm not really sure what my image is. I lost a few big pots against an aggressive 2/5 villain about 2 hours earlier in the night, that I played *really* badly but I really don't think that anyone remembers. I'm not even sure these people would realize how bad I played them. That's also a long time ago in fishy remembering time.

V1: Normally somewhat decent player, but tonight he's been playing really bad. He was stuck about ~$200, but he's back to $500 and around even. Talking about how he maybe should get up and leave before he loses his money again. Has a somewhat decent grasp of poker knowledge, but somewhat stationy. He's played with me before, and has seen me play really agro, and as a result, will call me down lighter than usual. Loves 2p. A lot. Also likes top pair. Likes it more in bigger pots because there is more to win in the pot.

V2: Spewy. Really spewy. Very aggressive when he is, but very selective when he is aggressive. Normally just a big station. Will call down with almost any draw but not with bottom or middle pair type hands. He is not afraid of money at all. Does not mind barreling. He has called every single raise pre flop for at least 2+ hours since he won a big pot described below.

Hand of note:
1-2 limpers
Random1 (R1) makes it $12 from LP
V1 calls on the button
V2 calls from the SB
R2 calls

Flop J84
Checks to R1 who cBets for $30
V1 calls
V2 shoves for ~$120
R2 tanks and calls for less (maybe $95 total)
R1 tanks and calls with ~$175 behind
V1 thinks for like 2 minutes, agonizes and calls with ~$200 behind

Turn: (2 players all in) (~$450) T
R1 checks
V1 checks

River: (2 players all in) (~$450) A
R1 checks
V1 checks

V1 shows JT for top pair on the flop, two pair on the turn
R1 shows KK
R2 shows A7 for nut flush draw
V2 shows A8 for mid pair, no flush draw on the flop rivering 2p



Hand in question:
Pre flop:
V1 (~$525) opens UTG for $12
V2 ($133) calls
2 folds
Hero ($465) 3! to $30 with TT
4 folds
V1 calls
V2 calls

This is a very standard raise size for V1, he's not really positionally aware, so he might be raising lighter here than most people UTG. V2 could have almost anything here. Once he called the first time, and V1 called his range doesn't change at all after the 3!. I would have liked to go heads up vs V2, but that didn't happen.

Flop: ($90) QJT
V1 leads out for $40
V2 shoves for $103
Hero?
TT in a 3! pot, against 3 way, on the worst board possible Quote
03-31-2013 , 11:00 AM
Given V1's love for vulnerable hands and If V2 can spew at all. I think you have to shove. There are tons of combo draws in both villains ranges and against made hand you still have decent equity.
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03-31-2013 , 04:00 PM
Shove here for $300 more than V2's raise? That seems like over kill quite a bit.
But maybe I'm just bad at this game.
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03-31-2013 , 05:25 PM
Preflop: The 3bet is a little too small, but not awful.

Flop: Shove. There are definitely opponents whose bets should be respected in situations like this, but these clowns don't qualify. Calling is a problem because you don't want V1 to be able to profitbaly stick around with a lone .

Just my opinion...
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03-31-2013 , 05:44 PM
i flat preflop to an UTG raise here, others probably agree...
3betting will just isolate u against the top of his range, most of which is beating you or flipping

this is a pretty gross spot but i like a reraise to 300-325 and get it in
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03-31-2013 , 05:53 PM
Bottom set against three villains with tight preflop ranges should be like 50% or better, isn't it, even on a relatively scary board? (I'd go stove this exact example, but I am trying to get my gut reactions down without doing specific math)
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