Great posts OSU.

Appreciate it bud...

What's this, IMA amateur poker player thread?

You'll be surprised how often that is. And you wonder why some players have tough time getting hours in.

Do you walk away from your job because you rather do something else?

ldo?

Nope. Stay away from clicks, because they're likely the reason why you do a lot of dumb stuffs outside of poker.

Always.

ldo?

God no. This is a job, just like any job. Find fun in it, or you will suffer.

That's like most jobs.

True in any job.

Pretty obvious for anything in life.

Women are the rake!

Damn Richard...your awesomeness is exuding from your profound responses. Don't know why the rest of us even bother posting on here. Best of luck to you kid....

Tip 14: There are plenty of douchebags in the poker world. Remember to smile over your shoulder as you're walking off with their money and they're still talking about how they disagree with your lifestyle, views, or play....

Yes, anyone that disagrees with you is automatically a douchebag.

Nah bud....just another tip I left out...feel free to comment on that one as well.

As a side note: They are called "tips". They are generally things most people would agree on and simply stated because I see players doing the opposite of these "tips" and see the negative effects on a daily basis. Feel free or not to do that last tip...there's really not much of a negative effect either way on that one.

Not necessarily anyone....

For the people suggesting some kind of "passive" income. I know of 3 ways : Websites, stocks and RE. Is there something else that can make your money work? Investing in small local business maybe?

I wish RE took a little less capital to get into.

There is a house i am looking at buying for 15,000£, the rent would still be around 400£ a month once it had some work done to it (maybe 5-10,000), so there are some bargains out there....

Pro tip: Don't hand out hundred dollar bills to strangers

I think poker is much safer than the stock market IMO...real estate is a little more predictable/reliable. Surround yourself with people who have the same goals/interests and read everything you can get your hands on....educate yourself as you do with poker. You'll find ways of making something out of nothing.

Ben Hogan was once asked, "How do you become the best golfer in the world." (a very generic question)

He replied, "It's simple....you just outwork everyone else."

Yea.

It's hard to find something that motivates me to learn as much as poker. I wish I had the same drive as a blogger for example, this way I could be having blogs on the side that earn a few, variance free bucks every month.

I'm a lazy little bitch thought, in everything, except poker. Lol.

No such thing as lazy in all except one.

A lazy person is only motivated by necessities.

Any of you pro's or semi-pro's playing limit games, mixed games, etc? I generally prefer O8, Stud8, Razz, Badugi and 2-7 Triple Draw Lowball (all the limit variants)

Wondering what stakes and earn rates you're experiencing live. I'm presently doing it to supplement my income, about 12 hrs/week. But my sample size is lolsmall right now.

Living in Tampa so the Seminole Hard Rock with 50 tables is readily accessible (and 15 minutes from me) and I'm generally playing 6/12 O8 with a full kill (although we got it going as an O.E. game recently, hoping I can continue the mixed game trend there)

Invest in private small businesses and be a silent partner.

I could relate to a lot of this.

Wow...Thank you for the detailed post.

As an immigrant I have no desire to risk everything I have gained by focusing on poker alone. My biggest fear was/is that the games will change (or dry up) and I cannot adjust just as I dive into poker full-time.

But the possibility of freedom from 9-5 is enticing (not to mention the lack of a supervisor who watches my clocking in/out). My current job requires me to hand hold some folks with minor IT issues while at the same time develop actual database reports & solutions that the whole group can use. Drudgery mixed with productive times - same as any job.

Coming to the questions part - how do other poker players (in your view) support families on $40-$60 hour profit? It seems insufficient for players with families and bills (health, education etc) to pay. Do the successful ones take measured risks to bink a tournament or do they continue to have a career outside of poker?

This is probably answered somewhere already - but I am hoping to hear your thoughts.

Thanks!

True fact: very very few poker players can support a family using poker alone.

Tourney pros are unicorns that exist for story time.

Agreed, cash games are the path to longevity if you're going to make it

heres the thing, chances are you are not going to make it big playing poker. you arent going to be a millionaire (unless you are in the top .0000001%)

what you can do, and what i strive to do, is make an extra $15-$20k per year playing poker. I pay my bills with my income from my job, and use poker winnings to do some of the things that i wouldnt be able to do on my modest salary; vacations, nicer restaurants, etc.

I am happy with this. Sure it is fun to dream of being atop the pokerstars leaderboard, but i am happy with my realistic goal.

There you go.

Cash may be important but real money is in tournaments and has been for 8 years.

ill bite sir - enlighten me

"Real" money means 100k+, ldo.

this.