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08-01-2023 , 07:48 PM
1/2 NL $300 max buyin.

Hero MAWG covers table by a lot. Probably seen as aggressive. I raise more than most, but every time I have shown cards when 3-betting so far have been AKs, JJ, AA. I've 3-bet others but not shown down. I'm just not sure how much attention V2 is paying.

V1 aggressive LAG UTG opens $10 (don't recall his stack but likely 200-300 does not matter).

V2 older asian guy BTN. Plays fairly straight forward. Not a station, not an OMC. $300.


V1 opens $10. V2 calls. Hero (KK) 3-bets to $50 from SB.
V1 quickly folds. V2 calls again.

Flop $100. A92r. Hero bets $30, V1 calls.
Turn $160 A92r 6r. Hero bets $90. V1 hesitates calls. I put him on a middling A. AJ/AQ at best. I think even this guy 3-bets AK and probably AQ. I am thinking with enough pressure I can get those hands to fold.
River $340. blank don't remember what it was. V has about $230 behind.
Hero shoves $230.

Thoughts? Should we ever really do this at 1/2 against a typical reg who is not a station.

Last edited by donkatruck; 08-01-2023 at 08:08 PM. Reason: typo river pot size
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08-01-2023 , 08:04 PM
The River pot size in your post isn’t quite right—you’re shoving $230 into $340, not $240, which makes it a little worse—but overall I like the idea. I would prefer slightly smaller bets on the Flop and Turn just to set up a River bet that’s closer to pot-sized. But he can’t have to set and you block TPTK. If he’s sandbagging you with a set of 9s or 2s, oh well, tip your hat, he played it right.
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08-01-2023 , 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by davomalvolio
The River pot size in your post isn’t quite right—you’re shoving $230 into $340, not $240, which makes it a little worse—but overall I like the idea. I would prefer slightly smaller bets on the Flop and Turn just to set up a River bet that’s closer to pot-sized. But he can’t have to set and you block TPTK. If he’s sandbagging you with a set of 9s or 2s, oh well, tip your hat, he played it right.
You're right. Typo on the amount. I corrected the post.
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08-01-2023 , 08:14 PM
I think you misplayed every street other than preflop, with flop being least egregious and turn being most egregious.

A lot of people range bet flop and I don't necessarily think that's bad, but you have a lot of natural bluff catchers, a lot of natural give ups, some logical slow plays, and you're oop. You're allowed to have a checking range, and this hand should be up there with them.

Turn bet makes absolutely 0 sense to me. You don't need protection because there's no logical draw he could have, you have very little equity when you're beat, you prob aren't folding out better, and you prob aren't getting called by worse. Super punty imo.

River you've almost certainly got better hands to bluff with and your value range is rather tight. You'll still get folds occasionally because a lot of people are just scared to put their stack in the middle, but if you figure the top of his range is AJ/AQ and you're blasting off all 3 streets with Kings, why not just do it with QJs instead?
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08-01-2023 , 11:32 PM
Let's forget about the idea of villain folding an ace for a minute.

On the flop, I am mainly going 33% with AK and AQ. Weaker aces and pocket pairs can go 20% on the flop. AA can also go 20% to protect that range and since you block top pair, and you can occasionally do the same with AK to protect your range as well. With hands like KK, QQ, you can go 20% on flop and check turn and river and win sometimes. That is why you don't turn KK into a bluff on the turn.

A hand like KQ does not have showdown value and would make more sense to use as a bluff.

Other than that, him hesitating on the turn does not necessarily mean weakness.

It sounds like you think he mainly 3bets AK, so I don't think you have good blockers. I would not assume he would fold AQ here. He is probably more likely to flat with AQo than AQs (not because of solver range, but because I think live players are more likely to 3bet linearly, meaning it is just more likely he 3bets AQs). So probably any combo of KQ that has a Q the same suit as the ace on the board is going to be your best bet as a bluff since that blocks AQo. I don't know if I would do this with QJs, because if a bluff is going to work here, I think you are hoping he folds AJ.

If you somehow end up having a low frequency 9 or 6 on the turn, those might be good candidates to barrel turn, especially the 9 because it blocks 99, and if you block A9s, that could be a potential hand he has. Plus, these hands have more equity than KK, 5 outs instead of just 2 against a pair of aces.

I still don't know how good it is to try to get him off of an ace here, but at least if we are using the right combos and not bluffing too often, at worst we get called off and that will give us a bluffy image that will help get us paid off, and the hand he shows down will give us some information.
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08-02-2023 , 12:17 AM
If you’re bluffing with KK can’t you just triple barrel every hand on this flop? Small bet is fine but check turn.
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08-03-2023 , 11:02 PM
Dont like
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