2-3-5 NL in San Jose, CA.
Rake and jackpot drop $6/hand.
On most days, the game plays bigger than your usual 2-3-5 NLs, as there are frequent straddles, max buy-in is $800.

8am Saturday 8-handed table

Hero started at 5:45am and did not win a single pot until 7:45am when everyone folded to SB who called. H in BB raised K9o to $15 and SB folded. 3/4 of an orbit later, H open raises in EP with 22, gets 2 callers, flop of JT7 gets checked around, turn is a T, and H bets 2/3 pot to take down his 2nd pot of the session.

Hero has been super card dead and must look like a total nit (maybe he is one). Down about $400 for the session at this point.

By now, H has watched the nighttime players all leave and be replaced by the Saturday AM crowd.

Table has become very loose and passive. Effective stacks $800.

H KdTc, on Button
Utg limp
Utg + 1 limp
Utg + 2 limp
Utg + 3 limp
H raise $60
Utg calls,

2 handed
Pot: $129
Flop: Kh 6h 9h
Everyone checks
H bets $120
V seems annoyed, accidentally knocks over his tower stack of chips, and calls.

Pot $369
Turn: 6 c
Check, check

Pot: $369
River: 2c
V bets $240
Hero??

I think I played this in a very non-standard way. Pre-flop I raised big because I really wanted to thin the field and thought there were likely a lot of garbage hands in front of me. When V called my large flop bet, he came off as pissed that I bet so much and had an angry "f-ck it" vibe when he called.

River action and check on rest of line, please.

Preflop is fine.

Doctrine on monontone flop is small bet or check I think. H bet of 120 is too big. If V re-raises, we're going to fold incorrectly quite often. Small bet folds his air and gutshots. He continues with Ahx or Kx/Qh,Jh,Th and 8h7h.

Turn: AP fine, but I think in theory we want to make another small bet.

AP River: cry call at over 2-1 but I think H made a few mistakes here.

Dont post results for 24 hr

Pre and flop seem too large but you got the result you wanted, although if it takes that much to get HU I'm folding KTo

Flop seems too large. I think players tend to be scared of monotone boards and you fold out most worst hands

Turn x is fine

River he shouldn't have worse pairs that called flop. That leaves 66, 99, K9, flushes and bluffs. I don't know how many bluffs he has after the big flop bet. Some flushes lead or x/r flop but maybe didn't due to your sizing. Plus it's a passive table, I may fold

Welcome to the forum. I agree with most of this ^. I edited out results.

C-bet flop small. Check back turn. Cry call river.

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Results:

Well, I am not going to comment on the river call since you posted the results already.

Preflop is way too loose to iso after this many limpers. Maybe KTs, and that would be about the bottom. Maybe even KJs would be the bottom. I wouldn't iso more than 40 here, 4x +1x for each limper.

Flop you should go really small or check, like 20% pot. You either have a heart in your hand or you don't, so you want to raise to something that a lot of worse hands can call you with. There aren't many worse Kx that can call you, and there are more hands than just a stiff Ah that you can get action from. This also gives you a good price if you had a hand like villain with the stiff Ah. You may even induce a raise.

This hand is too weak to iso, I would just fold pre.

When you say "everyone checks" by everyone you mean the one other villain in the hand?

Check back flop. Even if you bet it should be small, your flop bet is way too big.

The river idk I guess I'd flip a coin. He's either going to have a flush or just the Ah. It's harder to make a flush so I guess I'd lean call.

Im fine raising 60 with kto from btn into fish.

Flop im betting smaller. Turn check. River im folding but its close. Its a polarized range, and fish cant thin value bet, so if the board wasnt paired itd be a flush or Ahxo, but with paired board he can bet any FH or flush which is prolly enough value to be able to fold.

The other reason i lean fold is your tell, because the seeming annoyed thing sure sounds like some overacting with the nuts.

Still too soon for results, OP. They bias people's responses, even in a spoiler. Please wait until discussion dies down to include results in future threads, or 24 hours at least, even if discussion seems to have already died down. This is especially true of weekend posts, as a lot of people don't check 2+2 during the weekends, so threads tend to get a flurry of activity as different time zones wake up and get online.

I'm not going to re-delete, as people have already commented on them, but please keep in mind for your next thread.

Pre and flop are too big, but you got what you wanted pre. Not sure I understand the huge flop bet? Check turn is good. River I probably sigh-call, but there are times I will fold. Kind of table-dependent.

Re: Posting results, noted. Learning the ropes here.

Re: Flop bet sizing. I’ve had this incorrect (now noted) thinking that on flops with a a vulnerable made hand, I should bet big to get draws to fold or call at a very expensive price. But it makes sense that draws and mediocre pairs calling a smaller flop bet should be ok by me. And with the possibility of being checkraised on the flop, my flop bet should be smaller.

What if I only had a pot-sized stack left after the flop, would it then make sense to go all-in?


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Couple points to clarify...

1. C-bets on monotone flops should be smaller in general, because opponents will tend to over-fold to larger bets on scary boards.

2. It would be different if we flopped TP on a two-tone, somewhat connected flop, something like KQ8tt. There, we can bet KX larger for value and protection. It doesn't make sense to bet large when our hand could already be beat, and our opponents aren't likely to fold a big draw to a single bet.

In this hand, checking back flop is fine, too. But if we c-bet, it should be smaller, just because it is a monotone board.

It wouldn't make sense to go all in with KTo. That hand is to weak to jam for value, and too strong to jam as a bluff. If you're jamming, it should be with the nuts, or a bluff that blocks the nuts and / or some of your opponent's calling range, something like AhKx or AhQx - both block V from having the nut flush and block some of V's better TP combos.

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