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Originally Posted by DrTJO
Interesting that you seem to be saying that we either check flop or bet big, which might seem contradictory but I don't believe it is. Essentially you're saying we polarise or under-represent. What I did was "range-bet" and therefore under-represent to trap on the turn and river. We are both looking for the best betting strategy for a strong v weak range scenario. In the end, while there are some differences in how either villain has been ranged, I believe there is a general consensus. If I had called the river, my line of B30-x/c-x/c might have been regarded as perfect, except, of course, well ... yeah. I wonder if I would have actually bet rather than checked a river, too, btw and further mangled a good situation.
I don't know if I'm saying we polarize or under-rep. Maybe I am. But I don't know.
When we're multi-way and sandwiched between opponents in front and behind, I'll usually start by checking flop as the PFR. I want to see what my opponents do before I act. I guess we could say that's under-repping.
If we're mostly checking, not betting, then when we do c-bet, the size should be bigger, which I guess is polarizing. But it's not random. We're betting bigger on certain flops, for logical reasons.
I think a lot of people would say we should bet small here, to get value from worse 1P or V's draws. But I look at the board and the pre-flop action, and think that neither V has very many hands in their range that are strong enough to call, but the ones that will call are fairly strong, or decent draws.
Like, 22, 33, and 55-88 are probably folding, even to a small bet. It's unlikely either V has TT-KK. Other than having worse flush draws, the strongest hands either V is likely to have would be 99, 44, A9, A4, Ax, or 9x. We're behind some of those hands, but we can catch up if we hit our draw or pair our kicker, and we can get value from the hands we're beating.
Maybe the BTN flat called with TT or JJ, but even if he did, he's not going to want to put a lot of money in. He might call one small bet, but probably fold to further aggression. Likewise, maybe the EP limper shows up with some random Ax or 9x, but if he's got 2P+, we'll probably hear from him on the flop.
I don't hate betting small on the flop. But I do think we need to continue barreling on turn and river, when it becomes less likely we're up against 99, 44, A9, A4, or 9x, and more likely we're up against worse Ax.