This happened in the same 2/3 session as the preflop spot i posted and as it happens features one of the same villains.

This hand again features a $10 button straddle and our main villain is loose guy from the SB. Hero has him covered, about 400 effective.

Hero in this hand is in the cutoff eith QJo and we are 6 handed.

SB completes to 10, BB completes, folds to hero in cutoff who completes, and button checks it.

Flop is Q 7 3 rainbow. SB leads out for 35 into the 37 pot. Folds to hero who makes the call.

Turn brings another Q so we have trips. SB pots it again for 110.

Hero does what?

I probably should clarify, the reason its tough is this guy is relatively passive so when he just goes pot pot out the small blind where he has every 2 pair combo, sets, and even AQ and KQ it set off alarms in my mind

Keep calling, and don't fold any river.

We've top pair, so-so kicker, on 40 straddles. I think we're supposed to go broke here to some KQ or 77-33. If V is desperately trying to blast us out with middle pair, sucks to be him.

To be honest, I probably raise the turn because Villain is described as a loose player.

I am definitely not folding turn.

Is it possible that he was limping strong from the SB versus the BTN straddle? Yes, he could have AQ/KQ. But if he also limping some loose hands from SB versus the BTN straddle that he shouldn't...then he can show up with QT offsuit or Q9s or even Q8s.

I really doubt that he pots the rainbow flop with a set. Especially doubt that he is potting turn with a boat.

I think your thought process is illogical BTW. You said that he can have every 2 pair combo on the flop bc he is very loose completing SB vs BTN straddle. That means that he can have QTo, Q9s, Q8s, etc. if he can have Q7s based off the preflop action, we should be loving this spot to play for a big pot with QJ on Q73rQ board.

Youre right, he can have every Qx so he does have a lot of combos that we beat, I just meant that he also has the Q7 and Q3 so those boats are in there too whereas they would not be for a lot of players.

I let him keep betting into me. Raising just lets him fold worse and call/raise w/ better.

Just keep calling.

With V being in the SB and the BTN straddle being on, he could show up with some slow-played big PP's, as well as worse Qx.

His pot sized bet in a multi-way pot suggests he wanted to take the pot down on the flop, rather than milk opponents for value with a huge hand.

We could have some middling PP's here that were non-believers on the flop. The Q turn makes it less likely we've got a Q, so he could just be targeting all our 55, 66, and 88, as well as all our AX that can catch up on the river.

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He has either 14 or 16 combos of hands that beat us (AQ,KQ,77,33,Q3ss,Q7ss). If he's playing Q3 or Q7 he's also playing all the suited Qx which are 7 combos we beat.

The lead into 4 people on a rainbow dry flop has me a little worried. The turn bet and sizing HU looks incredibly strong. If he's not playing all the suited Queens it looks real bad, and that means he's probably also not playing QTo. AA-KK can definitely show up here, but we don't know if he limps them 100% of the time in this spot. I don't see what else he take this line with that we're beating. In real time, I'm definitely calling this and sigh stacking off on the river but now that I can sit here and think it through I think it's pretty close, no?

I actually folded. His line was so strong when my most likely hand is trips and people definitely will have KQ and AQ here that they dont raise preflop.

Its definitely possible he just way overvalued some weaker trips though or is just randomly blasting with air, but i see a lot of players in the pool like this guy that just blast off when they have it, even in a heads up pot oop they will just donk pot with monster hands.

Oof. I think folding there is a mistake.

I think your read on him being loose passive is the key here. It would take some sort of serious drunkery to decide its time to bluff at this pot MW OTF, and to double down on this turn card. Even with AA/KK I think most players would be like uh oh and check call.

Edit: re-read your OP. Description just says loose. Ugh. Makes this spot kinda gross. I will agree with docvail that the sizing doesn't make sense from a thinking player's perspective and to me says "I had AA/KK that I didn't raise and need to get money in now". If he's not passive perhaps he also has A3s,A7s, 64s, 65s, 45s and donked hoping to take it down or get a nice turn card and now can't let it go. But I've also observed what you have that often these things that don't make sense to us are just drooler value lines.

Im pretty sure it was. I definitely didnt feel good about it after bc i saw villain take the same line w some total nonsense not long after this. But in the moment with the limited information i had about the guy it seemed reasonable even though it was a huge deviation and incredibly nitty.

So, sounds like V is prone to doing some random nonsense type stuff. Even without that read, I think the BTN straddle being on opens up the possibility that V limped with some big PP's.

What's interesting, and could be seen as support for your decision to fold is that he continued to barrel on the second Q. A thinking player is going to slow down there if they don't have a Q.

In your spot, I'd be thinking about how often V limps from the SB with AQ/KQ vs worse QX. Folding QJ is super disciplined there, and I'd need a good reason to do it.

I'd think AQ/KQ/77/33 wouldn't bet full pot on flop and turn. I'd think AA/KK and worse QX would slow down on turn, if V is a thinking player. This line just doesn't make a lot of sense, other than being the result of entitlement tilt with AA/KK.

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